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Jun 13, 2009 08:28 |  #1

If any?

I felt the single straw in both their mouths was too much to pass on.....

Do the backgrounds work? Composition?


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Jun 13, 2009 08:37 |  #2

With a better exposure to avoid overexposed area i think will be cute.




  
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Jun 13, 2009 09:42 |  #3

alessandro2009 wrote in post #8102173 (external link)
With a better exposure to avoid overexposed area i think will be cute.

Thank you. The original, full res TIFF has no blown highlights with detail throughout. I guess dropping the res and converting to JPEG and then compressing left me with blown whites. I need to do a better job compressing and posting. Again, thank you.


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Jun 13, 2009 10:18 |  #4

I prefer #2. Seeing a single straw in two mouths together makes the act more interesting and intentional, somehow, whereas in the first shot, he just happens to have a straw hanging out of his mouth. The crop seems a bit high, though.


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Jun 13, 2009 14:19 |  #5

i thought that first shot was a booger when i glanced at it..

i like the shots though, #2 works better for me.




  
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Jun 13, 2009 21:36 |  #6

I don't like the way the bright neck, head and red background all line up in #1... it's just too dominant. Both pictures are over saturated.

#2 might have looked better from a little further back. I'm not a fan of the red building either... couple steps to the right, swing the camera around, and it might simply be fence and greenery...?

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Jun 13, 2009 21:43 as a reply to  @ tonydee's post |  #7

I don't know what's gotten into me tonight, I don't normally critique/respond, but I like #2. It looks like two old guys on a country road watching cars go by and making some smart-ass(llama?) remarks.


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Jun 13, 2009 21:55 |  #8

tonydee wrote in post #8105201 (external link)
Both pictures are over saturated

Cheers, Tony

Thanks Tony. Here is the original (top), and a new version (bottom) with less saturation. Better? I think I tend to over-saturate, at least I read that here. What are good ways to know yor are over-saturating an image? Is there a visual clue or just an overall look?

Now that I review them side by side, the original reds and greens are wat too strong.

Thanks for looking and sharing.


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Jun 13, 2009 22:10 |  #9

Seems you've changed a few things at once: brightness, contrast, as well as the saturation, so it's hard to comment on saturation on the basis of comparing the photos. In some ways the original revealed more detail: for example, the taller animal's right eye, and the shorter's left, have better whites and are better defined for it. The left side (our right) of the shorter animal's face is very dark, and whatever you can do to keep a little shadow detail in there, with a bit of local contrast, will help define the 3D curvature. The less saturated image doesn't have the blown whites along the noses, which is definitely an improvement, but does look a bit dull generally. All up, sometimes you need to adjust different parts of the image selectively to get an optimal result. Saturation wise, somewhere in between might be best... just a little more than the desaturated one.

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Jun 13, 2009 22:19 as a reply to  @ tonydee's post |  #10

I did change a bunch. Very good input. Thanks for your help. I am going to slow down a bit, probably rushing it. Plus, I never calibrated my monitor. Working off a notebook display may not help either.


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Jun 13, 2009 22:30 |  #11

I think the biggies are contrast and saturation. Many people feel they need to always increase saturation and contrast. If you image is already sharp and properly exposed, you may not need to add contrast. Same goes for saturation. In fact, you may want to reduce saturation in some circumstances.
Calibrate your monitor. If you don't, your working blind.


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Jun 13, 2009 22:35 |  #12

poloman wrote in post #8105440 (external link)
If you image is already sharp and properly exposed, you may not need to add contrast.

+ well lit: different from exposed :-)

Good points though. I don't typically add saturation....


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Jun 14, 2009 09:00 |  #13

I like #2




  
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