Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Sample Photo Archives Lens Sample Photo Archive 
Thread started 14 Jun 2009 (Sunday) 03:41
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Canon EF 70-210mm f/4

 
kandyredcoi
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 14, 2009 03:41 |  #1

well, did a search didnt really see a thread for this lens so here it is...lets show some love for Canon's old school 70-210 f/4 push/pull zoom lens

i guess i can start, here are a few shot with my 5d2

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://img.photobucket​.com …20landscapes/IM​G_9411.jpg (external link)

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://img.photobucket​.com …20landscapes/IM​G_9412.jpg (external link)

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://img.photobucket​.com …ansportation/IM​G_9408.jpg (external link)

Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
friz
Goldmember
Avatar
1,595 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Jun 14, 2009 08:57 |  #2

I'll add a couple

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://i47.photobucket​.com …184/frizz1/IMG_​1983-2.jpg (external link)


PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://i47.photobucket​.com …/f184/frizz1/IM​G_1438.jpg (external link)



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kandyredcoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 14, 2009 12:33 |  #3

^sweet pics!!!


Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
friz
Goldmember
Avatar
1,595 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Jun 14, 2009 14:51 |  #4

I bought this lens to try out the focal length before investing in the L lens. I am now finding it hard to part with this one to buy the L lens. Go figure.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rudeofus
Senior Member
Avatar
502 posts
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jun 15, 2009 05:44 |  #5

It's one of these lenses you get at some point in your life and then you're stuck with it for the rest of your life. You get all the big glass, but unlike the big glass the 70-210 sits in your bag when you need it. There are sharper lenses in this range, but they don't do 1:4 macro or weigh 3 times as much and more (hence you don't take them with you casually). You think you need a lens with faster AF but realize that even fast paced sport activities can be covered well with this lens.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.



HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


Discovery is not accidental. We discover only when we make ourselves ready to receive and photographers seek discovery by mastering their craft. But it begins somewhere else. It begins with daisies, kids, awful scenes, falling in love, or growing old. It begins with that which matters to you. And it ends with visual statements that express what matters to you about these things. It is not sight the camera satisfies so thoroughly, but the mind. - Christian Molidor

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rudeofus
Senior Member
Avatar
502 posts
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jun 15, 2009 05:48 |  #6

So to conclude this double post: this lens is an excellent cure against gear aquisition syndrome and has saved me a lot of money. I accept that the 70-200 F/4 L IS is a better lens but I wouldn't spend the price difference on it.

And to state it again: because it is so small and light weight this lens is there when you need it and when you least expected that you will need it.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.



HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


Discovery is not accidental. We discover only when we make ourselves ready to receive and photographers seek discovery by mastering their craft. But it begins somewhere else. It begins with daisies, kids, awful scenes, falling in love, or growing old. It begins with that which matters to you. And it ends with visual statements that express what matters to you about these things. It is not sight the camera satisfies so thoroughly, but the mind. - Christian Molidor

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kandyredcoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 15, 2009 18:11 |  #7

Rudeofus wrote in post #8112076 (external link)
And to state it again: because it is so small and light weight this lens is there when you need it and when you least expected that you will need it.

+1

unless your hardcore and dont mind lugging the long white lenses around

this lil lens is great especially outdoors!!!


Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kandyredcoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 23, 2009 12:04 |  #8

took this pic on the MACRO setting in my home built mini studio

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://img.photobucket​.com …amera%20gear/IM​G_1572.jpg (external link)

Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike ­ Deep
Goldmember
Avatar
1,863 posts
Gallery: 77 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 692
Joined Apr 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
     
Jun 24, 2009 00:02 |  #9

I had this lens and hated it so much I gave it away after replacing it with a 70-210 USM and a 70-200 f4L.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


IMAGE: http://mikedeep.smugmug.com/photos/500173642_iH3aC-L.jpg

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

www.mikedeep.com (external link) | SportsShooter (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kandyredcoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 24, 2009 05:02 |  #10

^i can tell how much u hated it ;) great shots


Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rudeofus
Senior Member
Avatar
502 posts
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jun 24, 2009 05:29 |  #11

Mike, nobody would doubt the 70-200 F/2.8 L IS to be better/faster/quicklie​r focusing/sharper/offer​ing IS/whatever, but not to the degree that I would spend 15 times the price of my 70-210 F/4 on it. Nobody would doubt the 70-200 F/4 L to be better/quicklier focusing/sharper/whate​ver, but not to the degree that I would spend 5 times the price of my 70-210 F/4 on it. And the thrill of lens uber sharpness wears off pretty quickly IMHO. The thing many owners hate about this lens is knowing there are better lenses out there (call it gear acqisition syndrome if you want).


Discovery is not accidental. We discover only when we make ourselves ready to receive and photographers seek discovery by mastering their craft. But it begins somewhere else. It begins with daisies, kids, awful scenes, falling in love, or growing old. It begins with that which matters to you. And it ends with visual statements that express what matters to you about these things. It is not sight the camera satisfies so thoroughly, but the mind. - Christian Molidor

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike ­ Deep
Goldmember
Avatar
1,863 posts
Gallery: 77 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 692
Joined Apr 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
     
Jun 24, 2009 11:36 |  #12

My biggest problem with this lens was the horrific CA, especially in OOF transition areas. Second was the focus speed, that annoying noise it made, and the awful manual focus ring (It's like it shipped with sand inside). Third was the schizophrenic bokeh, which looked like a mirror lens at times. I would probably put sharpness fourth on this list. It wasn't terribly sharp, but that alone wasn't enough to ditch the lens.

FWIW the 70-210 USM I found only cost about half ($60) of what I paid for the f4 ($135) and is better in almost every respect. The only thing I haven't really tried with it is close focus, since I have several lenses better suited to those tasks now. The L's are in a different league, of course.


www.mikedeep.com (external link) | SportsShooter (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kandyredcoi
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,611 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2009
Location: So. Cal. (951)
     
Jun 25, 2009 04:11 |  #13

Mike Deep wrote in post #8166497 (external link)
My biggest problem with this lens was the horrific CA, especially in OOF transition areas. Second was the focus speed, that annoying noise it made, and the awful manual focus ring (It's like it shipped with sand inside). Third was the schizophrenic bokeh, which looked like a mirror lens at times. I would probably put sharpness fourth on this list. It wasn't terribly sharp, but that alone wasn't enough to ditch the lens.

FWIW the 70-210 USM I found only cost about half ($60) of what I paid for the f4 ($135) and is better in almost every respect. The only thing I haven't really tried with it is close focus, since I have several lenses better suited to those tasks now. The L's are in a different league, of course.

yea the slow focus is probably my only pet peeve about the lens :cool:


Unique Custom Watch Straps--> www.CTDesigns.us (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rudeofus
Senior Member
Avatar
502 posts
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jun 25, 2009 09:10 |  #14

Mike Deep wrote in post #8166497 (external link)
My biggest problem with this lens was the horrific CA, especially in OOF transition areas. Second was the focus speed, that annoying noise it made, and the awful manual focus ring (It's like it shipped with sand inside). Third was the schizophrenic bokeh, which looked like a mirror lens at times. I would probably put sharpness fourth on this list. It wasn't terribly sharp, but that alone wasn't enough to ditch the lens.

I never noticed CA with this lens but to be honest I never looked too hard for it, it wasn't obvious to me at least (and yes, I own the 85L, so I know what CA looks like :)). We agree that sharpness is less than stellar, especially @210mm and wide open. The small manual auto focus ring could be better, but apparently small MF rings were the big rage back then when the lens was designed, just look at Canon's other ugly ducklings. AF clearly does not sound like USM but this hasn't bothered me so far. Hey, it's a 100 € lens after all.

What really surprized my was your complaint about bokeh. My sunset picture above shows beautiful blur which easily matches the bokeh of some lenses in the bokeh-thread. friz's tiger image confirms this, too.

Mike Deep wrote in post #8166497 (external link)
FWIW the 70-210 USM I found only cost about half ($60) of what I paid for the f4 ($135) and is better in almost every respect.

In this case you got a special deal on this lens, in good ol' Europe the USM goes for 150-200 €, which is twice the price of the 70-210 F/4, plus the F/4 has macro and F/4 at the long end, which is nice to have.

Seriously, why would one compare this 100€ lens to lenses at five times the cost or more? The biggest competitors to the 70-210 F/4 are not Canon's other 70-2x0, it all the third party 70-300 lenses, which are similar in price and performance, offer more FL while being one stop slower.


Discovery is not accidental. We discover only when we make ourselves ready to receive and photographers seek discovery by mastering their craft. But it begins somewhere else. It begins with daisies, kids, awful scenes, falling in love, or growing old. It begins with that which matters to you. And it ends with visual statements that express what matters to you about these things. It is not sight the camera satisfies so thoroughly, but the mind. - Christian Molidor

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mike ­ Deep
Goldmember
Avatar
1,863 posts
Gallery: 77 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 692
Joined Apr 2008
Location: Tampa, FL
     
Jun 25, 2009 13:54 |  #15

The CA (In my copy at least) was very frustrating, a diffuse purple or green glow around objects that were transitioning to out of focus. It wasn't like typical fringing you could just zap out in post. In focus areas didn't seem to show much CA, oddly enough. The problem disappeared stopped down too, but a lens that's only acceptable at f8 isn't terribly useful.

Re: bokeh, sometimes it was quite good, sometimes it was bad, and there was more variation than any other lens I've used so I suspect it was something about the lens. It definitely did not handle busier situations. Maybe it was my copy. Unfortunately I've long discarded the shots I didn't like.

As for the USM, I've also seen it go for about the same price as the f4 at KEH ($150 range). I came across a bargain but the comparison should still be valid I think.


www.mikedeep.com (external link) | SportsShooter (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

85,087 views & 0 likes for this thread
Canon EF 70-210mm f/4
FORUMS Sample Photo Archives Lens Sample Photo Archive 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is eleanorfoxy
723 guests, 261 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 6430, that happened on Dec 03, 2017

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.