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Jun 10, 2010 02:20 |  #8416

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Cool.....glad I dropped in. I need to rewire downstairs when we do some renovations soon. I am gonna use cat 5 for phone and network, just was a bit vague on how I was going to connect up the phone and adsl, but think I have it sussed now.

Anyone have access to rj45 wall jacks at good prices?

Oh and hi everyone, long time no post. I've been keeping myself to busy to use the camera much, but i'll get back to it.

Scott/Moppie, If you need the crimpers and end testers (those things you use to electronically check that the wiring ends are paired) I have them. The house we moved into 2 years ago was wired but not terminated and labelled... so with the help of the www I got intructions. Now the boys are amazed at how far quicker their interweb thingies go compared to when we were wireless... :rolleyes:

EDIT: I read somewhere that CAT5e wire is the way to go if you want to be future-proofed...


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Jun 10, 2010 02:35 |  #8417

Moppie wrote in post #10335982 (external link)
Ironically, yes :cool:

Cool.....i'll work out what I need and get in touch. :D

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Scott/Moppie, If you need the crimpers and end testers (those things you use to electronically check that the wiring ends are paired) I have them. The house we moved into 2 years ago was wired but not terminated and labelled... so with the help of the www I got intructions. Now the boys are amazed at how far quicker their interweb thingies go compared to when we were wireless... :rolleyes:

EDIT: I read somewhere that CAT5e wire is the way to go if you want to be future-proofed...

CAT6 is better, but much more difficult and expensive to terminate. Over short distances CAT5e is probably just as good.

I think I have the tools somewhere already. Thanks for the offer.


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Jun 10, 2010 04:04 |  #8418

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If I run the line from the street into a 2 wire jack which the modem/router goes into, doe it need to be a special jack point?
Or can I then run lines from there to the other jack points in the house?
And, should these be run in parallel, or is it ok to run them in series from the first jack point?

no special jacks required - once you've got a splitter/filter in there at the main router point, all the phones are in parallel off the phone side of the filter.

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if using RJ45 wall plates instead of BT jacks the wiring diagram stays the same, you just use pins 4&5 instead of 2&5

p.s. sorry - I couldn't find dial-type phone stencils....

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Jun 10, 2010 04:07 |  #8419

scotttnz wrote in post #10335935 (external link)
Anyone have access to rj45 wall jacks at good prices?

are you telling me that you can't get this sort of thing thru work? ;)


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Jun 10, 2010 04:12 |  #8420

So the splitter gets wired in the line, or just plugs into jacks?

Also, how hard is it to wire up jack points for net working?

I might connect up only 2 phone connections, one for the phone, and one for the router.
Then replace the phone jack in the house (and add a couple) with net work points.
As we now have 2 computers and a TV on the network, which is just cat5 running from the switch, through a hole in the wall, under the house, and back in through another hole.


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Jun 10, 2010 04:22 as a reply to  @ Moppie's post |  #8421

So the splitter gets wired in the line, or just plugs into jacks?
>you can get both types, in general, the wired-in types are better quality

Also, how hard is it to wire up jack points for net working?
>on a scale of 1 to 10, about 2... Hardest part is removing the outer insulation from the cable without cutting any of the inner wires - if you can manage that you're sorted.

I might connect up only 2 phone connections, one for the phone, and one for the router.
Then replace the phone jack in the house (and add a couple) with net work points.
As we now have 2 computers and a TV on the network, which is just cat5 running from the switch, through a hole in the wall, under the house, and back in through another hole.
>holes are quite useful... :lol:


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Jun 10, 2010 04:37 |  #8422

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>holes are quite useful... :lol:


There are advantages to owning your own home :lol::lol:

Theres currently one under Amandas desk, and one hidden behind the TV.
I tried filling them with silicon, but the cat played with the cables and pulled it out :rolleyes:


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Jun 10, 2010 05:44 |  #8423

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...but the cat played with the cables and pulled it out :rolleyes:

PLAYED!!! 'Jaycar' is bloody psychotic and was probably trying to steal it, store it, then use it tie you up during the night and make off in your car to visit other felines (I could have said 'pussy' but this is a public forum) in the neighbourhood!!! Then return, untie you and curl up on your lap as if nothing had happened and still expect to be fed. (Yes, I'm still deeply scarred).




  
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Jun 10, 2010 06:18 |  #8424

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PLAYED!!! 'Jaycar' is bloody psychotic and was probably trying to steal it, store it, then use it tie you up during the night and make off in your car to visit other felines (I could have said 'pussy' but this is a public forum) in the neighbourhood!!! Then return, untie you and curl up on your lap as if nothing had happened and still expect to be fed. (Yes, I'm still deeply scarred).

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Jun 10, 2010 23:43 |  #8425

scotttnz wrote in post #10336048 (external link)
Cool.....i'll work out what I need and get in touch. :D


CAT6 is better, but much more difficult and expensive to terminate. Over short distances CAT5e is probably just as good.

I think I have the tools somewhere already. Thanks for the offer.

Yes, CAT6 is far better, but as you say, it is still expensive and difficult... From what I understand as long as the CAT5e is not longer than 30m it should be good... or could I have read that wrong?

If you can't find your tools you know where to reach me.;)


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Jun 11, 2010 00:43 |  #8426

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PLAYED!!! 'Jaycar' is bloody psychotic and was probably trying to steal it, store it, then use it tie you up during the night and make off in your car to visit other felines (I could have said 'pussy' but this is a public forum) in the neighbourhood!!! Then return, untie you and curl up on your lap as if nothing had happened and still expect to be fed. (Yes, I'm still deeply scarred).

:lol::lol:

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Jun 11, 2010 00:46 |  #8427

Oh dear, the most spirited discussion we've had here in a while and it's about plugging in phones. Ok, here, what's wrong with this photo?

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Jun 11, 2010 00:49 |  #8428

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Ok, here, what's wrong with this photo?


Should have used a CPL to get rid of the reflections :rolleyes: :oops:

That is certainly an "Oh Dear" situation :(




  
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Jun 11, 2010 00:53 |  #8429

And speaking of people we haven't heard from for a while (not that we were :rolleyes:), my Friday worker & I had coffee with IainB & his good wife this morning.

Good to catch up.




  
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Jun 11, 2010 00:59 |  #8430

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Oh dear, the most spirited discussion we've had here in a while and it's about plugging in phones. Ok, here, what's wrong with this photo?

Oh shyte -- I hope it doesn't get any worse than that... bugger. Keep safe!


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