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Anyone use their D60 for weddings?

 
Hawkeye12
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Jan 28, 2003 16:49 |  #16

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I'm working on a linear workflow chart for newbies...just had Roger critique it. I think we should keep a thread going for suggested workflows. Everyone has their method..and I'd love to see what others find best. Best I've found is Yarc+ with ARF2 to Pekka's LSbeta2- strong sharpening , add noise blur if High ISO.

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thanks for the understanding Bob. the workflow topic would be of great interest to all of us.

funny thing about the 28-135, some actually work better than others, but all the pics i've seen from this lens on a D60 have shown to be super sharp.
i'm looking for a 24-70L now to replace my 24-85.
i said i wouldn't, but the results from my 70-200L have gotten the best of me.
the wife wants me to shoot our nieces wedding so i'm a bit nervous about not having the right glass.




  
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Jan 28, 2003 18:40 |  #17

Thinking of going striclty digital---after shooting Weddings for over 25 years, on film. But looks like too much post work>>>to make enlargements on the PC>>deliver prints and CD~~~~~~

At present we do not offer reprints--we sell the negs/prints ----the bride & groom pay for the image and we charge by the hour. But would be nice to just hand them a CD of raw files and receive the same pay! No Processing... No Film!

But I think the consumers look at a CD as something "cheap"---a blank medium is pennies. So it may be difficult to charge for the latent image on a CD ==== equally to film/photograph theory at the same income..

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Jan 28, 2003 20:28 |  #18

"wcapald shoots 800 images per wedding ! how do you have the time to go through so many pictures, overkill springs to mind, how do the medium format boys survive with the 16 rolls of film 192 shots"

Still shooting 35mm--average 6-9 rolls of film for a 5 hour event.....but I "set-up" every shot, even my candids...we guarentee 33 images per roll---no wasting film--after 25 years ,,,we hope we know what the bride& groom are looking for.

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Jan 28, 2003 23:31 |  #19

I use a D30 for weddings (and have shot a friend's wedding with his D60). I have had no complaints about the prints... :)

I have samples from the last wedding on my web page.


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Jan 29, 2003 02:18 |  #20

[QUOTE]carmeljo wrote:
Thinking of going striclty digital---after shooting Weddings for over 25 years, on film. But looks like too much post work>>>to make enlargements on the PC>>deliver prints and CD~~~~~~

At present we do not offer reprints--we sell the negs/prints ----the bride & groom pay for the image and we charge by the hour. But would be nice to just hand them a CD of raw files and receive the same pay! No Processing... No Film!

But I think the consumers look at a CD as something "cheap"---a blank medium is pennies. So it may be difficult to charge for the latent image on a CD ==== equally to film/photograph theory at the same income..

CJOGO Crystal Studios

The post work only becomes a problem if you go for overkill. ie. 800 shots per wedding..!!!
Most of the wedding pros in my neck of the woods use S2 or D60 with good results.

Don't go down the purist direction no one I know uses RAW for weddings in my books, picture wise,
the largest one off print (20*16) will easily stand 3072 * 2048 in fine JPEG mode...We all get bogged down by the technology and what the purists think, but you live in the real world and don't want to have to sit for hours converting all your shots from RAW mode.
OK the CD problem, you could ask your clients to view their prints at the studio on one of your monitors or present the CD in a DVD box as you would a wedding DVD and print their name, date etc. on the CD and on the DVD box...presentation goes a long way to disguise what may be relativly cheap to make. Remember they pay for your skill and time the rest is a bonus.




  
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Jan 29, 2003 03:21 |  #21

I'm not that good in photography, but better in math: 800 pictures per wedding? One per minute is 60 per hour! Is the wedding night included? Do you guys eat when you're on assignment?
Most difficult is probably how do you choose the best ones for the happy couple (if they can still see after you have fired 800 flashes at them).




  
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Jan 29, 2003 03:28 |  #22

Well, I'd have to agree that the most I've ever taken was about half that (400 or so), BUT...

... in parts, I tend to take a lot more than 1 photo per minute! :D

...and on some jobs I don't get to eat, either! :(


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Hawkeye12
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Jan 29, 2003 06:12 |  #23

Rudi wrote:
Well, I'd have to agree that the most I've ever taken was about half that (400 or so), BUT...

... in parts, I tend to take a lot more than 1 photo per minute! :D

...and on some jobs I don't get to eat, either! :(

Rudi, what lens would you suggest for shooting a wedding?




  
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Jan 29, 2003 07:02 |  #24

I used to use my "old" 28-135IS most of the time, but would now use my "new" (actually older than the 28-135, but new to me) 28-70 f/2.8 L, or the new 24-70L if I had one. :) I also used a borrowed 17-35L once instead of my EF 20mm f/2.8, which I use a lot of the time. I like to use the 70-200 f/2.8 L for candid portraits at the reception, but find that I don't use it as much as I thought I would... (not at weddings, anyway).


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Hawkeye12
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Jan 29, 2003 08:55 |  #25

thanks a lot Rudi.........i am on 2 waiting lists for the 24-70L already. seems to be a shortage just like anything else Canon makes that is in demand.




  
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gregarpp
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Jan 29, 2003 12:54 |  #26

Do you print your own?

Or do you send them out to be printed?




  
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Jan 30, 2003 02:20 |  #27

Just so you know some of our american counterparts are shooting more than 800 images on weddings!

The one I shot 800 images at was a castle in Scotland.

I started at 9.30am with the groom. Then did a shoot with two soft top vintage bentleys. Next was the bride getting ready. Short rest before going on to the church to do the arrivals, with about 120 guests. Loads of candid stuff and no formals. The vicar also allowed any photography we wanted inside the old church.

Departures included a planned shoot of the two bentleys with confetti everywhere it was great.

Then on to the castle for a champagne garden party reception - wonderful light... covered the speeches then had a serious break for two hours before covering the 1st dance.

We finished at about 10pm for several malt whiskeys.

Everything was shot on fine JPEG and we use microdrives. There is no need for RAW if you know how to use the D60. Storage would be prohibitive, workflow too long, and quality is excellent for 16x22 prints from Fine JPEG.

Of the 800 we shot the B&G selected 400 7x5' s and then chose 100 photographs to go into a GraphiStudio Wedding Book. Double page spread in these books is 16 x 22" for those who are not familiar with GraphiStudio Books.

The quality of the D60 images is superb, pin sharp.

GraphiStudio also personally congratulated me for one of the best wedding books in 2002, both in terms of my photography and location.

And what did I charge - just short of £3000 or $4800.

Not a bad days work.

And guess what I have almost 30 booked already for 2003.

So the message is - get on the bus and enjoy the ride and join the elite photographers who know how to use these new tools to shoot big weddings....

Wayne


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Jan 30, 2003 03:10 |  #28

wcapald wrote:
So the message is - get on the bus and enjoy the ride and join the elite photographers who know how to use these new tools to shoot big weddings....

Wayne

Wayne,

I couldn't agree more! I feel I can do a better job for the client with digital than I could ever do with film. The fact that I have complete control over all the image manipulation before (and sometimes during) printing has a lot to do with that! :D

... and I have no hard and fast rule about how many shots I take per wedding, I just seem to average around 400... :)


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Jan 30, 2003 03:30 |  #29

I have been in the Scottish wedding scene for over 15 years and know who produces what...the chaps who are the cream of the crop are still using Hblads, Bronicas or have moved back to film, you must be the exeption.
800 shots is OTT in my books, very few wedding photographers now bother with the guests they leave that to the video.
How much of your time after the wedding was spent sifting through 800 pictures, I calculate that 800 D60 pics is 2 GB of storage and being a true pro stored on 2 computers, just as well HD space is cheap and plentifull.




  
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Jan 30, 2003 05:02 |  #30

If you really take a look at where the new ideas are coming from they aren't the hasselblad or bronica brigade. For a start they couldn't move fast enough.

If you look at two of Australia's leading Master Photographers in 2002 presenting at WPPI in Las Vegas next week they are totally digital, dropped film 12 months ago. And they charge £4000-£5000 for a wedding in the middle of Sydney.

The slide rule is dead, we use IPAQ's for calculators...


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