Which Calibration Tool + Poll

It wasn't that long ago when monitor calibration was hit or miss. I remember learning specific color builds in photoshop of colors ,(good flesh tones for different ethnic groups) as part of my job. The soft proofing of images has come a long way.

tonylong wrote in post #8671997
I'm not sure what you mean by "biased arguments" about monitor calibration...

Not biased about the need for calibration, biased regarding hardware in the sense of "this calibration device is the best because I use it".

Tony, please re-read my statement which you quoted. I said "about hardware calibration devices".

chrisa wrote in post #8672041
It wasn't that long ago when monitor calibration was hit or miss. I remember learning specific color builds in photoshop of colors ,(good flesh tones for different ethnic groups) as part of my job. The soft proofing of images has come a long way.

Hmmm... I wonder if I could still qualify as a swarthy olive-skinned southern-Italian type.

With my work, I spend more time adjusting the color of stucco'd adobe style homes.

ChasP505 wrote in post #8672163
Not biased about the need for calibration, biased regarding hardware in the sense of "this calibration device is the best because I use it".

Tony, please re-read my statement which you quoted. I said "about hardware calibration devices".

Ah, OK, it wasn't clear to me. Of course, people can tend to be biased about their chosen hardware -- just look at those Nikonians!

tonylong wrote in post #8672192
...-- just look at those Nikonians!

A hyper-zealous fringe group, for sure!

EODIS2 is still in the lead...

klynam wrote in post #8689736
EODIS2 is still in the lead...

Is anyone surprised that the largest percentage are willing to pay for an accurate, full featured display calibration package?

nope, but always good to see real world results not just corporate messaging...

I hate to open up an old thread, but I am also deciding between the Spyder 3 vs. i1 Display 2.

I just read these 2 posts about "wide gamut".....

Souwalker wrote in post #8298706
I'm even more confused now...What's a wide gamut monitor and how do I find out mine? I've got a 21 inc AOC 210v widescreen monitor. I can see I can select 'gamma1', 'gamma 2' and 'gamma 3'. I'm on gamma 1 now.

Saxi wrote in post #8299247
I don't think Eye One can work on newer monitors that have larger gamut ranges, this is the big reason I didn't touch them. The color munki does and the blue lacey or whatever it is called, but the color munki has lots of bad feedback about horrid support and funky software, the blue lacey looks interesting (same puck as eye one though) but at $400+ I would want to do print as well.

I just purchased the DELL-2209WA - Is this a newer wide gamut monitor and/or will either the Spyder 3 or i1 Display 2 work on it ?

Beski wrote in post #9289056
I hate to open up an old thread, but I am also deciding between the Spyder 3 vs. i1 Display 2.

I just read these 2 posts about "wide gamut".....


I just purchased the DELL-2209WA - Is this a newer wide gamut monitor and/or will either the Spyder 3 or i1 Display 2 work on it ?

I have a Samsung 226CW & HP LP2475w, and ever since I got the Spyder 3 Pro, I have had more problems with color than ever, I don't trust my monitors at all. I have yet to resolve this since I don't print often. My left monitor has a color cast that I can see from even my windows desktop, my right one (the HP that I do my photo work on) looks better but luminance is way off since the pro can't really calibrate luminance easily. I also believe there is a color cast but after staring at it for a while it just all blurs together and I gave up. I wanted to try the Eye One but I don't know if it is any better or if it would resolve my issues, I didn't like the reviews I read on Amazon about it, but it is hard to really tell. I tried the ColorEyes software but I just couldn't stand the interface, it looked very old and poorly maintained and wasn't going to spend $200 on it.

Beski wrote in post #9289056
I just purchased the DELL-2209WA - Is this a newer wide gamut monitor and/or will either the Spyder 3 or i1 Display 2 work on it ?

It is NOT a wide gamut monitor so you don't have to deal with those issues. The Spyder3 Elite and the EyeOne Display 2 will perform equally well. I have owned and used them both on my Dell 2209WA. My personal recommendation, for a slightly higher cost, is buy a Spyder3 Express and use the puck with ColorEyes Display Pro software.

A reminder: Most test reviews I've read and my own experience show that brand new out of the box, the Dell 2209WA delivers 120cd/m2 with the Brightness control lowered all the way to 0.

Saxi wrote in post #9289091
..... looks better but luminance is way off since the pro can't really calibrate luminance easily.

Which products do calibrate luminance easily ?? (What is "Luminance" ?!?!)

ChasP505 wrote in post #9289114
It is NOT a wide gamut monitor so you don't have to deal with those issues. The Spyder3 Elite and the EyeOne Display 2 will perform equally well. I have owned and used them both on my Dell 2209WA.

That's great news - and a relief - thanks for the info !!

ChasP505 wrote in post #9289114
My personal recommendation, for a slightly higher cost, is buy a Spyder3 Express and use the puck with ColorEyes Display Pro software.

Is this the Combo you are talking about here:
http://www.rpimaging.c​om/store/PID797

ChasP505 wrote in post #9289114
A reminder: Most test reviews I've read and my own experience show that brand new out of the box, the Dell 2209WA delivers 120cd/m2 with the Brightness control lowered all the way to 0.

WOW - Guess I have some reading to do....I don't know what any of these numbers mean !?!?!?

Beski wrote in post #9289380
Which products do calibrate luminance easily ?? (What is "Luminance" ?!?!)

I've already answered this question for you. Luminance, by one definition, is a measurement of the amount of light emanating from an object. It's usually measured in candelas per square meter (cd/m2). I think the consensus is that for most photo editing purposes, you don't want to have your LCD monitor set at higher than 120cd/m2. High end professional LCD monitors can easily go lower than 100cd/m2 while most consumer LCDs struggle to reach 120cd/m2 without losing detail and color accuracy.

http://www.colorwiki.c​om/wiki/Monitors_Part_​Two

Beski wrote in post #9289380
Is this the Combo you are talking about here:
http://www.rpimaging.c​om/store/PID797

No... Better to buy the software direct from the source and shop elsewhere for the best deal on a Spyder3 Express.

http://www.integrated-color.com
http://www.buy.com …199569&listingi​d=54559724

BUT... The Dell 2209WA is such a simple and easy monitor to calibrate, you really don't need more than the Spyder3 Express. Just set the Brightness to 5%, don't touch any other controls, and let the Spyder3 Express automatically create a good display profile for you.