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Jun 27, 2009 12:46 |  #1

I am looking to add a couple more Canon flashes to my setup. My plan is to use my 550ex as the master and the additional units as a slave. My question; can I use the 550ex to fire the additional flashes without firing the one on the camera?


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Jun 28, 2009 04:52 |  #2

I don't know enough to say for sure. But I heard you can shut off the flash but still use it as a master. Anyway, wouldn't the manual say something about this?



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Jun 28, 2009 04:58 |  #3

Yes, you can.

Cycle through the Sel/Set button presses until the Master Flash icon appears. Set Master Flash On or OFF using the + and - buttons.


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Jun 28, 2009 07:56 as a reply to  @ CliveyBoy's post |  #4

Thanks for the info.


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Jun 28, 2009 11:19 |  #5

CliveyBoy wrote in post #8188142 (external link)
Yes, you can.

Cycle through the Sel/Set button presses until the Master Flash icon appears. Set Master Flash On or OFF using the + and - buttons.

Correct!


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Jun 28, 2009 12:16 as a reply to  @ District_History_Fan's post |  #6

There will still be a flash, to control the other slaves, but it will be of low power, and not affect exposure, unless the master is very close to the subject.


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Jun 28, 2009 14:15 |  #7

apersson850 wrote in post #8189419 (external link)
There will still be a flash, to control the other slaves, but it will be of low power, and not affect exposure, unless the master is very close to the subject.

Wouldn't the master/slave communication happen before the actual shot is taken?


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Jun 28, 2009 18:23 |  #8

bobbyz wrote in post #8189879 (external link)
Wouldn't the master/slave communication happen before the actual shot is taken?

Yes and no!

What is loosely referred to as "preflash" covers several flash/camera events. After determining flash exposure levels and setting up master and slaves to deliver, the camera's shutter becomes fully open and there is a low-power coded flash telling the slaves to Fire. Obviously, this has to be when the shutter is open.


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Jun 29, 2009 03:25 as a reply to  @ CliveyBoy's post |  #9

Yes, that's how it works. I wasn't sure if they (Canon) managed to send the trigger flash just before the event, to prevent the master flash from any impact at all, as far as the picture goes, so I did a test. By taking a photo, where the reflectors of both slaves and master was visible in a mirror, I could see that the master's flash was visible, regardless of whether it was set to "off" or "on". But it was significantly more powerful when set to "on".

Here's a quote from a user's manual on the subject of not using the master flash for illumination, but only for communication:

This operation will normally not affect the correct exposure of the subject, although the exposure might be affected if the subject is close and a high ISO sensitivity has been set. To limit this effect as much as possible, bounce the light by tilting or rotating the SB-900’s flash head.

If someone thinks it's inappropriate to quote a single paragraph from Nikon's SB-900 user's manual, then let me know or remove it yourself, if you can.


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