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Ledrak
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Jun 28, 2009 00:32 |  #1

I want to start writing in kill fees for my paid shoots. What do you guys think would be a fair percentage to pay out as a kill fee to a model who's not working out during a shoot and I need to send home?




  
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Jun 28, 2009 03:48 |  #2
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What's a "Kill fee?"


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Jun 28, 2009 04:20 |  #3

Probably something like what British Law refers to as Failure to Perform.

Discuss with the agency you hire from, they will usually have a standard contract. If you're hiring from the web then it's your choice and what the costs of a shoot is to you and if you have an alternative model to hand. It's a business decision for your own expenses and, importantly, what you negotiate with the model.


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Jun 28, 2009 09:36 as a reply to  @ Faolan's post |  #4

Right... failure to perform, contract termination clause, etc.




  
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Jun 28, 2009 11:13 as a reply to  @ Ledrak's post |  #5

Not model who doesn't perform...... There you get into a question of fact and may find yourself on the wrong end of a lawsuit......

Now MODEL WHO DOESN"T SHOW UP, is different....... Make her (him?) pay

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Jun 28, 2009 12:34 |  #6

Failure to Perform is quite safe if the model doesn't meet the shoot brief. As long as you have a shoot brief in writing with the aims and specifications of the shoot and the model fails to meet those objectives and you have proof of this and/or witnesses then you are in the clear. Take for example a fashion shoot and the model has tattoos when it's not suitable for bikini wear. That's a reasonable cause for Failure to Perform, as long as you specifiy that no body piercings/tattoos or body mods. Also if the model fails to declare these then that could also be cause for termination. This does happen in the fashion industry.

As to fees, I just bill the model the costs of the shoot or wasted time. This is covered by the shoot brief and the contract the model agrees to and is clearly explained during shoot discussions. It covers any contracted party who fails to perform or attend a session not just the model. Needless to say I've never had an issue with any party because of this...

UK Law is different from that from over the pond, plus Stateside you're more lawsuit happy ;)


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