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Jun 30, 2009 05:36 |  #1

how can I know the number of shutter release my 5D has?

My camera is being serviced by Canon Bangkok. They are good, cheap and fast, according to my own experience. I wanted to know this count to figure out if a preventive replacement of the shutter will be appropriate. (I already had to change the shutter on my older 10D, so I know a shutter can die).

I thought the shutter count was recorded somewhere inside the camera, but the technician at Canon pretended it is not. As I am familiar with the Thai, I deciphered this can simply means that HE does not kow how to do. The other possibility is that this shuter count stuff is a rumor.


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Jun 30, 2009 05:59 |  #2

I believe the 5D does not have the facility to store a shutter count.

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Jun 30, 2009 06:33 |  #3

bohdank wrote in post #8199397 (external link)
I believe the 5D does not have the facility to store a shutter count.

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

so, which camera has this builtin counter and which one does not?


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Jun 30, 2009 07:30 |  #4

1D's and Digic 3 and up.


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Jun 30, 2009 07:42 |  #5

They all have the counter, none display it. There is aftermarket software like cancount (1Ds) and the astrojargon tool which works on most (if not all) DigicIII and DigicIV processor cameras. There is no tool I know of that works on the 5D.


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Jun 30, 2009 08:05 |  #6

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They all have the counter, none display it. There is aftermarket software like cancount (1Ds) and the astrojargon tool which works on most (if not all) DigicIII and DigicIV processor cameras. There is no tool I know of that works on the 5D.

Thanks for the info. Do the best I have to do is to wait, and praise my shutter does not die when I need it the most.


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Jun 30, 2009 08:17 |  #7

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Thanks for the info. Do the best I have to do is to wait, and praise my shutter does not die when I need it the most.

There is no way to predict when the shutter will go, even if you know the accurate count. The number Canon provides is not a minimum or a hard limit, but an average based on a number of bodies. The shutter can fail within the first few clicks or it can last for hundreds of thousands of clicks and there is no way to know when your will fail.

Knowing that, one can assume that with each click of the shutter, the odds of failure on the next shot increase minutely.

However there are a few things you can watch for and if you see them, there could be an imminent shutter failure. One failure mode has light arcs within the image:
http://photos.bahneman​.com …php/canon_shutt​er_failure (external link)
You start getting light arcs, stop right away and send in the body for a shutter replacement before something a lot worse happens.
Here is another example with the curtain getting stuck as well.
https://photography-on-the.net …highlight=shutt​er+failure


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Jun 30, 2009 09:45 |  #8

gjl711 wrote in post #8199886 (external link)
However there are a few things you can watch for and if you see them, there could be an imminent shutter failure. One failure mode has light arcs within the image:
http://photos.bahneman​.com …php/canon_shutt​er_failure (external link)
You start getting light arcs, stop right away and send in the body for a shutter replacement before something a lot worse happens.
Here is another example with the curtain getting stuck as well.
https://photography-on-the.net …highlight=shutt​er+failure

That's very valuable info to know. Many thanks.
I will check my 5D at high shutter speed.
It looks like the shutter doesnt die without warning. My 10D shutter died a few month ago with other symptoms: black images after the camera was not used for a while. After a few tens of clicks, it started again, usually for the rest of the shoot.


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Jun 30, 2009 09:53 |  #9

your body does keep track of the number of actuations, but only Canon can get that number for you.

As for replacing the shutter as a preventative measure, I wouldn't. Keep a backup body in case it happens when you need it most.


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Jun 30, 2009 11:49 |  #10

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your body does keep track of the number of actuations, but only Canon can get that number for you.

if you read the above responses, it seems that the 5D (the old one) does not.

about preventive replacement, I have thought about this option because I have the opportuniti to have this done in Bangkok, where Canon service is good and cheap. This is not the case in France, where i will be living next.


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Jun 30, 2009 14:00 |  #11

They all keep count.


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Jun 30, 2009 19:31 |  #12

TaDa wrote in post #8201576 (external link)
They all keep count.

are you positive?
the 5D has the Digic II.
As learned on this topic, the counter has been included in Digic III and up.


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Jul 02, 2009 09:29 |  #13

Good to know...


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Jul 02, 2009 09:33 |  #14

OL9245 wrote in post #8203092 (external link)
are you positive?
the 5D has the Digic II.
As learned on this topic, the counter has been included in Digic III and up.

The counter is there and Canon can extract the # for you if you want to send it in and have them do so. It is not accessible as no one has written an piece of software to extract the #. Canon for some reason does not supply a method to read the actuation count. All the software I have seen have been written by individuals interested enough to do the reverse engineering necessary to get the number.


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Jul 03, 2009 01:06 |  #15

gjl711 wrote in post #8211845 (external link)
The counter is there and Canon can extract the # for you if you want to send it in and have them do so. It is not accessible as no one has written an piece of software to extract the #. Canon for some reason does not supply a method to read the actuation count. All the software I have seen have been written by individuals interested enough to do the reverse engineering necessary to get the number.

Interesting.
Canon Bangkok guys said they cannot know the shutter count. I have a good opinion of them since this is the 3rd time they service one of my cameras and they always have done a good job. I donnot understand why they dont want to read this figure for me. May be they dont know how to do?


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