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Jun 30, 2009 12:50 |  #1

Ok, I am losing sleepless night over this lens....lol..
I have been shooting sports some outdoor some indoor.. I have the Sigma 70-200 2.8 w/TC..
and I might put the Sigma on a second body.. Canon 40d.
thinking about this upgrade to the canon 300 2.8is...
Is this lens really going to step up my game...:rolleyes: for friday night lights football, baseball, etc...
I know I should rent it first but that would only make me want it more...

I hope to make some $$$ selling sport pics if I get this dream lens...
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Jun 30, 2009 13:12 |  #2

Rent it first. Personally, I'd try both the 300 and the 400 2.8. I like the 400 for football because I'm farther away from the action. I do shoot with a 2 camera set up. I'd rent, see what you like and then purchase. There is a slight learning curve to those lenses but the 2.8 will give you some good separation from the back ground. If the fields are well lit you should be good.


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Jun 30, 2009 13:22 |  #3

jerokaz,
I both lens are the best in the business, I am thinking about renting it first.. but I shoot little league, HS football... and wondering if the 400 is going to be to much..
I would liek to add the 1.4 TC when needed..that is why I am thinking the 300mm.
the 400mm might be out of my budget and reach might be to tight for some sports.
indoor basketball, etc...
I know the 400mm will put in the ball park with a lot of sports for sure....;0)
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Jun 30, 2009 13:30 |  #4

The 400 will be too long for baseball. Even the 300 will be too long. For field sports like football and soccer. both would be great. For LL Baseball, I think the 100-400 L is ideal. You can move around the field and get some many great angles. With LL, I actually use my 70-200 with a TC. Since LL Baseball is played in the daylight, lens speed isn't really a concern.


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Jun 30, 2009 13:39 as a reply to  @ Joe300's post |  #5

I was in the same position as you one year ago. Renting was a consideration but my choice was to purchase the 300 f/2.8

My calculus was this: Buy and use the 300 for a football season. If I still wanted to go to the 400, the 300 could be sold for a loss of $500 or less for a season of use (or even a year of use). Renting the 300 a few times would cost me just as much or more.

Even if I get the 400 someday, I'll never regret purchasing the incredible 300.


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Jun 30, 2009 13:47 |  #6

Zivnuska,
yea that is one thing to think about using the canon 40d crop factor too.
Do you use your 300mm with a TC and is it just as sharp? I want to get the lens so that It can produce images that keep me ahead of other photogs and mom's with cameras.
getting inside the fence and side lines helps too.
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Jun 30, 2009 13:58 |  #7

Joe300 wrote in post #8201509 (external link)
Zivnuska,
yea that is one thing to think about using the canon 40d crop factor too.
Do you use your 300mm with a TC and is it just as sharp? I want to get the lens so that It can produce images that keep me ahead of other photogs and mom's with cameras.
getting inside the fence and side lines helps too.
Joe

The 300 f/2.8 is dramatically sharper than the 70-200 f/2.8 which is the commonly seen competition. I did not know it was possible to get sharpness and colors as wonderful as possible with the 300. As far as TCs, look at the shots here:

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Jun 30, 2009 14:21 |  #8

Oh man sweet, link thanks, now I have to have this lens...lol Now I see a lot of photos are with a
1D mk1 or II , 5D... is my 40D going to hold its own...

I see you and jerokaz both use the 1D mark II / III.
I will have to rent this lens first, I think. Just so that I can show my other half the pics I can get from this lens. ha ha

thanks for the tips and info.
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Jun 30, 2009 15:17 as a reply to  @ Joe300's post |  #9

Last year, a buddy and I shot a high school football game together. He used his 40D with my 300 f/2.8 IS and I went with my 1D Mark III and the 70-200 f/2.8 IS. The image quality of his pics were clearly superior due to the lens. Even on the net, it is easy for me to tell which of my images are with the 300 and which are not.

He now shoots with the 1D III and is getting his own 300mm.


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Jun 30, 2009 15:23 |  #10

Your 40 will do fine. The 1D has better AF and FPS than the 40D, but if you use the center pt on your 40D, you will do fine. The more you practice, the better you will get.


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Jun 30, 2009 16:18 |  #11

When I bought my 300 f2.8 I was shooting with a 40D and it worked fine. I've since replaced the 40D with a 1DMarkIII. For Football and Soccer I often use a 1.4x on there. Even a 2x at certain times, the photos still come out "good". I hesitate to say "great" with the 2x because I'm kind of picky about the IQ but it's still good.

The 300 seems very versatile to me, I've used it for water polo and tennis where the 300mm length seems just about right. Throw in the two converters and you have three useable focal lengths there.

Where it lacks sometimes is extra reach during night games. You normally have to leave off the converters and stick with 300mm to get the f2.8 aperture. At those times I just try to move around as much as I can and stay close to the action.

If you're undecided about a 300 f2.8 or 400 f2.8 and you've never really handled either one, rent them first. I've shot with a guy who was planning on selling the 400 f2.8 and buying the 300 mainly because of the weight. Obviously having the 400 f2.8 was not critical for him as it usually is for most full time pro sports shooters. He was just a part time shooter, like myself. I should mention he did not have the lastest version which I believe is the lightest one yet. But I would still rent them first if you can.

The 300 is a joy to own. Pony up and get the Stabilized version, it's worth it when you want to shoot by hand. You can do 600mm grab shots with the 2x on there and the stabilizer makes it nice & steady to get the shot.




  
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Jul 01, 2009 07:16 |  #12

The 300 2.8 is my fav sports lens. Perfect for Baseball/Softball.

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Jul 01, 2009 08:08 |  #13

The 300mm f 2.8 is the best lens I own.For kids football where you are allowed access to the sidelines you might find it too long for some of the plays. Your 70-200 should be of value there. I didn't believe how good the 300mm f 2.8 was until I owned it. Excellent with a 1.4 and also with a 2X if you are careful


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Jul 01, 2009 08:33 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #14

(He now shoots with the 1D III and is getting his own 300mm.[/QUOTE]

Did you tell him, Hey this is my lens get your own......and he is...lol
lol...As I get ready to reach into my wallet and get out my Credit Card...:D
Getting ready to take the plung....one more baseball game and I am ready to upgrade....

I am hoping to get a photo contract on some Fall sports teams T&I and I can see myself using this lens a lot.... maybe get a second body for my 70-200mm.

those examples are sweet and I have search out other links last night too on this lens...

thanks, and happy shooting to you all,
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Jul 01, 2009 08:36 |  #15

The 300 2.8 is a fantastic lens - hard to not like it. It is much easier to carry than the 400 2.8 --- and if you decide to get rid of it- you will have no problems doing so.


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