What do you do about people that are anti photoshop?

Ya know the people that say they are doing things old school by not photoshoping their photos. I always try to use the people edit the same way in the darkroom as they do in photoshop. A photo is never perfect straight out of the camera. And even by setting exposure and stuff you are manipulating how you want the photo to look. If you use filters in front of the camera thats the same thing. Also there are saturation and other setting in the camera that you can change. idk I just dont get those people and I hate arguing with them because they are so ignorent.

Kill them... kill them all

sarahashleyphotos wrote in post #8218099
I hate arguing with them because they are so ignorent.

So don't - ignore them. But if they start getting better results than you without any PP then perhaps you might want to reconsider your position!

peterbj7 wrote in post #8218150
So don't - ignore them. But if they start getting better results than you without any PP then perhaps you might want to reconsider your position!

I haven't seen anyone that does not photoshop their photos get better results. And every pro I know uses photoshop. Im just trying to help out these ignorant people because digital photography is just as technical as it is an art and they fail to see that sadly.

& I mean really... Digital photography is digital therefore you need a computer to process it. Film photography is chemical therefore you need chemicals to process it. There is no such thing as "Not editing my photos is sooo old school" because people usually do and always have done minor edits to their photos. If a film photographer never edited their photos then the film roll would be sitting there all rolled up never to be seen or even still in the camera not developed.

Ignore them. The only person who matters when it comes to what you do with your photographs is you. If you are happy with your results, then what does it matter what anyone else thinks about how you got to your finished product?

neil_r wrote in post #8218124
Kill them... kill them all

I can see you forgot your meds today


OP, the reason most of those types of people are against photoshop for one or all of the following reasons:

a: people who overuse photoshop have a tendency to take photos wrong (either they don't learn how to properly expose photos, mis-focus or some other error and they over photoshop to make up for their bad photography)

b: they prefer extreme effects (and most old school photographers prefer photos that look like photos)

c: they over process a photo and don't realize how bad it looks

If you find yourself

a: then it's best to listen to their advice, learning how to take a photo is much more important in the first place.

b: if you like extreme effects, no problem. Many won't though. But that doesn't make it bad. It just makes you have a smaller following.

c: This is a category that may photoshop happy people don't realize they are doing. Some will overdo skin smoothing and think it looks great when really they are making their subject look like an alien. Some are over sharpening...gads, it's terrible. Some are over saturating.

In this case, it's important to learn from your detractors. Even if you don't like it, the bottom line is that you'll learn not to overdo something.


Now, I don't know where you fall in this. You may not fall in any or you may fall in all of them. I love photoshop and use it. Sometimes for extreme effects and sometimes I use it extensively and yet people don't know it's been done. Sometimes I make errors but the important thing is that if you want to grow in skill, don't discount what's being said to you. It could actually enhance your abilities if you listen.

sarahashleyphotography wrote:

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What do you do about people that are anti photoshop?

Nothing.

To each their own. If they're satisfied with the results they're getting, that's up to them.

oh and don't forget, just because someone doesn't like heavy photoshopping (or even medium photoshopping) doesn't make them ignorant. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

Permagrin wrote in post #8218194
oh and don't forget, just because someone doesn't like heavy photoshopping (or even medium photoshopping) doesn't make them ignorant. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

All Im talking about is levels, curves, and minor things that usually need to be corrected and adding color profiles. People just dont understand all the technical things that go along with digital photography or fail to learn about them.

sarahashleyphotos wrote in post #8218207
All Im talking about is levels, curves, and minor things that usually need to be corrected and adding color profiles. People just dont understand all the technical things that go along with digital photography or fail to learn about them.

well, I wouldn't worry then. Help the people who appreciate it and move on when they don't.

Again, many prefer a SOOC look and that doesn't make them wrong. It just makes them have a different opinion.

btw, I just looked at your gallery. You have some nice work in there.

I make a brief effort to teach them about the negative effects of the Bayer filter on a DSLR. If they don't listen after that, I roll my eyes and walk away, because it's hopeless.

I ask them the same question I asked an associate who told me that he didn't believe in evolution: Well, since you're picking which established principles you will "believe in", how do you feel about gravity?

If they're shooting jpegs, then perhaps they're happy with the results. For anyone who shoots in raw mode, post processing is a reflex.

Permagrin wrote in post #8218241
btw, I just looked at your gallery. You have some nice work in there.

Thanks.