Pocket Wizard Mini TT1 and old PW's II

I have 2 PW transceivers and was looking at getting another or just a receiver so i can work two flashes wireless, i also use these at times to fire a remote camera.

After having a look on their site, i quite fancy the size of the new Pocket Wizard Mini TT1. question is will it work backwords with the old 4 channel MkII's?
and will the new TT1 work the older PW's for remote triggering?

Is there any other advantage of upgrading for the new TT1 rather than the size, for my scenario? like i said i just need it for manual flash and remote triggering.

Thanks

Rory

Yes, it is 100% backwards compatible.

One other bonus, depending on your flashes, is hypersync which could allow you to get higher sync speeds than would otherwise be possible.

For example, using a MiniTT1 to trigger standard pocket wizards I can sync up to 1/8000 with my calumet Travelite 750s. I get the highest power out of them at 1/4000, but the fact that it's possible is incredible regardless.

However, what you'll be able to tgain is dependent on both your strobe and your camera model, so keep that in mind when considering it as an advantage.

Short answer, yes, it'll work.

In my own test of PlusII vs MiniTT1 triggering a standard PW, there wasn't even a 20ft range difference.

The size alone is worth it.

My flashes are a 580 ex MK I and MkII will i still get over 1/250sec?? even 1/500-1/800 would be great! camera is a 50D. and ill not loose any distance when remote triggering? most i have used a remote camera was 200m. if it ticks those boxes looks like its on teh shopping list

k_strecker wrote in post #8254633
Yes, it is 100% backwards compatible.

One other bonus, depending on your flashes, is hypersync which could allow you to get higher sync speeds than would otherwise be possible.

For example, using a MiniTT1 to trigger standard pocket wizards I can sync up to 1/8000 with my calumet Travelite 750s. I get the highest power out of them at 1/4000, but the fact that it's possible is incredible regardless.

However, what you'll be able to tgain is dependent on both your strobe and your camera model, so keep that in mind when considering it as an advantage.

Short answer, yes, it'll work.

In my own test of PlusII vs MiniTT1 triggering a standard PW, there wasn't even a 20ft range difference.

The size alone is worth it.

i think you're misleading there, correct me if i'm wrong but from my understanding HS is only available up to 1/500, depending on the camera model

to get above that u need ControlTL i.e. will only work with other MiniTT1 or FlexTT5

hoanglong wrote in post #8256378
i think you're misleading there, correct me if i'm wrong but from my understanding HS is only available up to 1/500, depending on the camera model

to get above that u need ControlTL i.e. will only work with other MiniTT1 or FlexTT5

nope, I mean exactly what I said.

Here's my travelite 750 syncing at 1/8000

Cheers K, i understand when using strobes you can get the high sync speed, from the OP you had no way of knowning what lighting system i was using, and you you explained what you can get using your system.

i just see in your example (thanks for posting) you have the flex receiver on your light. do you know what speed would you get if using the mini TT1 on camera and the old PW Plus on the light??

you need to have either a FlexMini or FlexTT5 as a transmitter and a FlexTT5 as a reciever if you want to use all the new features of the new pocketwizards. Things like E-TTL, HyperSync, and FP/High-Speed sync.

HyperSync is like x-sync but is upto 1/500 depending on camera model. FP/High-Speed sync is like the HSS button on the back of the 580EX II.

i have a FlexTT5 on camera and Plus II on the remote flashes. wth this setup i can take advantage of HyperSync and sync upto 1/400 instead of my x-sync of 1/250 for the 30D.

i can also use this setup for remote triggering, FlexTT5 in hand and PlusII on camera. but x-sync is back to 1/250. the new pocketwizards have to be on camera to use HyperSync.

hope that helps.

hoanglong wrote in post #8256378
i think you're misleading there, correct me if i'm wrong but from my understanding HS is only available up to 1/500, depending on the camera model

to get above that u need ControlTL i.e. will only work with other MiniTT1 or FlexTT5

i believe this is correct. go look at pocketwizards website for the Flex MiniTT1. Scroll down to about the third paragraph where they underline HyperSync technology and FP/High-Speed sync. These are two different features.

thanks ntc3,sorry to bother and ask, but any guess what sync speed id get using a mini TT1 on camera (50D) and plus II's on a 580mk I & II. will i get over 1/250?

thanks for the input lads.

rory

I am very confused about this. How can you get sync speed higher than the camera's sync speed. If the camera was manufactured to sync up to 1/200 sec, you'll get banding beyond that speed. Unless there's more than one flash (pop) involved. Is that the case with Hypersync? Is there multiple flashes involved?

PS, Upon after thought, that can't be. That'll induce motion. So what's the deal?

I got up to 1/2500 with an original pocket wizard receiving. Original as in - version 1 with a big dial in the middle. Speaking to PW techs on the phone they figured it was due to the delay in the physical switch triggering inside the receiver that limited it to that when I could get 1/8000 via a flex receiver.

Hypersync is only a trick on the transmitter's end.

the fact that the receiver is a Flex means nothing when it's plugged into the strobe via the mini-phone jack. It's a basic trigger like any other at that point.

So using one of the new model PW's on the camera as a transmitter, and the old PW II's remotely, what is the fastest shutter speed I can get out of a 5D Mark II now that the newest PW firmware upgrade is out?

i stumbled upon another POTN thread https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=689847

also the review of the new pw's and he explains how hypersync basically works http://www.robgalbrait​h.com ….asp?cid=7-9884-9903-9906

RoryOD wrote in post #8258109
thanks ntc3,sorry to bother and ask, but any guess what sync speed id get using a mini TT1 on camera (50D) and plus II's on a 580mk I & II. will i get over 1/250?

thanks for the input lads.

rory

well the flex tt5 and flex tt1 are almost the same thing (except that the flex tt1 is a transmitter only) and the 30D and 50D both have a cropped sensor. my remote flash is also a 580EX II connected to a PW PlusII. so we have similar setups.

so if i had to guess, then i would guess that you could also HyperSync upto 1/400. hopefully others with a 50D and flex mini can share their experiences.

Cheers, suppose its better to get the mini now and then in future if i buy the flex im half ways there. think theres only about $40 difference between the plus and the mini TT1.

only thing i wish the mini used AA's...ah well nothings perfect.

thanks for all the input guys

rory