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Jul 11, 2009 10:40 |  #1

Ive been in the Canon camp for 25 years but when you see shots from the Nikon D700 at ISO10.000 it really makes you wonder.

Check this out http://photocamel.com …deo-d700-iso-10000-a.html (external link)

Can 5D MKII or 1D MKIII come near this?



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Jul 11, 2009 10:45 |  #2

Not a comment about the D700 but when someone posts a B&W pic, even though downsizing masks a lot of noise, you KNOW it's usually because the chroma noise is really bad.


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Jul 11, 2009 11:10 |  #3

there is no way that those shots were at iso 10,000 unless the guy put in some extreme noise reduction on his pic's

even at iso 3200 the D700 won't give u that iso performance u have on the link

check this out it might be helpful

http://www.dpreview.co​m/gallery/nikond700_sa​mples/ (external link)

browse through the pic's u'll c some iso 1600, 3200, 6400 and 25000




  
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Jul 11, 2009 11:16 |  #4

If those are really ISO 10,000 then I'm impressed.


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Jul 11, 2009 11:21 as a reply to  @ versedmb's post |  #5

Those photos look like a bunch of bull to me ;)


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Jul 11, 2009 11:28 |  #6
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Stunning! :)


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Jul 11, 2009 11:32 |  #7

I call BS. I want to see the EXIF attached to the photos.


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Jul 11, 2009 11:37 |  #8

There's no EXIF data in those images, so who knows. Every comparison I've seen between the 5D2 and D700, where one or both images were downsized to match (which is what happens when you print or post an image), the 5D2 was cleaner.




  
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Jul 11, 2009 11:37 |  #9

Very, very easy to achieve...

Bollan wrote in post #8262435 (external link)
Ive been in the Canon camp for 25 years but when you see shots from the Nikon D700 at ISO10.000 it really makes you wonder.

Check this out http://photocamel.com …deo-d700-iso-10000-a.html (external link)

Can 5D MKII or 1D MKIII come near this?

...At that size, and with the overall amount of light available, that's piece of cake, though.

Here's ISo10,000ec on the 1D3 under grueling conditions, and shown MUCH larger than those tiny crops ;):

http://www.pbase.com …/image/11468908​3/original (external link)
http://www.pbase.com …/image/11361579​9/original (external link)

You can see (at the left) CS's navigation panel, which shows the relative size of the area you are seeing with respect the original file.


And here's this Osprey (for which I will later show a very simple, step-by-step tutorial for FlexNR-v2.0-Eos1D3 users, with midtones and highlights that ended up BEYOND ISo25,600, once full processed and pushed (from almost an impossibly dark ISo3200 frame):

http://www.pbase.com …/image/11302589​3/original (external link)


It is only when you face deep, contrasting shadows with strong front/side/back/top-lights, where things begin to get tough... :D

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Jul 11, 2009 11:40 |  #10

Outstanding, if true!!!!!


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Jul 11, 2009 12:07 |  #11
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Someone oughta send that gentalman a box of BullChip. Odd he is the only person on the internet capable of getting such high ISO shot's with superb performance. Were it so Nikon would have 10,000 ISO images all over the internet from that camera fore it even blows there flagship out of the water. Were that reality, hey this aint another Outa Limit's tv show is it.


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Jul 11, 2009 12:16 |  #12

Thanks PIX for your informative input as usual :-)

But you must admit the the preserved detail (even at that size) is rightfully impressive so is the ability to hold the colors so well.

I know high ISO is a sensitive issue in the Canon camp right now and rightfully so.

For those who say it's BS or EXIF is missing. Sure, i dont have a written authenticity certificate nor am i trying to sell anything either so if you dont like it just hit the back button of your mouse and no harm done. Also EXIF doesn't say any thing as a "scientific proof" as a 3 year old can edit that anyway.

Gary (the photographer) posted them in the sports section just to share the rodeo shots, i stumbled upon them and wanted to share, thats all.



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Jul 11, 2009 12:16 |  #13

Bollan wrote in post #8262435 (external link)
Ive been in the Canon camp for 25 years but when you see shots from the Nikon D700 at ISO10.000 it really makes you wonder.

Check this out http://photocamel.com …deo-d700-iso-10000-a.html (external link)

Can 5D MKII or 1D MKIII come near this?

The D700 does have excellent high ISO performance, But so does the 5D MKII. If anything the D700 is only marginally better, and for me it's an insignificant difference.


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Jul 11, 2009 12:30 |  #14

You will have no doubt...

Bollan wrote in post #8262800 (external link)
Thanks PIX for your informative input as usual :-)

But you must admit the the preserved detail (even at that size) is rightfully impressive so is the ability to hold the colors so well.

I know high ISO is a sensitive issue in the Canon camp right now and rightfully so.

Well, it is not, considering what really occurred to those tiny samples.

What I will do is that I post the ISo10,000ec samples and the OSPREY shot (beyond ISo25,600) shown in my prvious post at the SAME size of those samples you showed, and then it will all be clear, for everyone.

What's happening here is samples like the ones you brought put to the test our skills and overall experience, when judging digital imaging quality.

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Jul 11, 2009 13:12 |  #15

i think it is probably true iso10,000 - under great floodlights, wide aperture and good exposure....

i think almost anything resized for the web can look great - and those shots do. See 100% and i think it will look like most 100% high iso shots...

does anyone else see the consistant blur over the background - rather than bokeh and DOF effect or is that just me ? its not to be critical - they are great captures and its what I would do with a high ISO shot too... Just that I personally think the capabilities of MOST modern cameras are capable of this sort of output - i think its pointless to knock the nikons or canons - we are at the point where its - wow that is stunning and wow that is second to stunning by such a small amount - no end user can tell...

this shot is ISO 25600 (6400 and pushed 2 stops) just done to see what i could squeeze out of 1dmk3, where many will point to higher ISO capabilities of 5d and 5d2- posted at same size as his shots. There was no artificial lighting and it is simply a dark corner in my house

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