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Shootin' with both eyes

 
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Jul 11, 2009 23:03 |  #1

Thought I would contribute back to POTN and start a thread on shooting with both eyes open. I have enjoyed bird hunting (real gun, not camera) for many years and my Dad taught me at an early age to shoot with both eyes open. Many, if not most, people you see shooting guns have trouble keeping one eye open, much less both. Pretty much same goes for photographers, at least those in the amateur category. So here is a quick 'how to' if you are currently shooting with just one eye.

1. Mount a lens that gives you a 1:1 perspective or field of view
2. Focus while looking through viewfinder
3. Close one eye and open the other while holding camera in place
4. Alternate which eye is open, maintain image composition
5. Attempt to open both eyes and literally see both images

If you have a perfect 1:1 perspective between viewfinder and actual subject, you should not have a problem focusing both eyes on the subject even though one eye is looking through the viewfinder. Focusing with both eyes gets more difficult when the perspective is not 1:1. To remedy this takes practice and training, but the payoff is well worth it! :cool:

For instance, I was shooting a softball game last night and managed to capture several hitters at just the moment they swung the bat. I did this by first composing the image, locking focus, and opening my left (non-dominant) eye so I could see and anticipate the ball entering the frame.

Another instance is shooting kids at a birthday party. I like tight shots of kids faces and pretty much ignoring everything else. However, it's easy to A) lose track of the kid when using a long zoom (70-200 for instance), B) miss action happening elsewhere and C) snap the image just as another kid runs into the frame.

So, shooting with both eyes has its advantages and will definitely increase your keeper rate. I dare say it also helps you keep an open eye to the world around you even while the other eye is peering through that dark tunnel of a viewfinder. :lol:

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Jul 11, 2009 23:12 |  #2

Those are good tips, I think I will try and practise that! :)


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Jul 11, 2009 23:13 |  #3

Awesome....I'll have to try it!!




  
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Jul 11, 2009 23:19 |  #4

HOW TO DETERMINE YOUR DOMINANT EYE

Reach a full arm's length away from you and point an anything with your index finger and close your left eye. If you are still pointing at the object, you have a dominant right eye. If you are not, then you have a dominant left eye.

Why is this important? In order to shoot with both eyes open, you will need to concentrate your efforts on the non-dominant eye. The human brain will completely ignore the image coming from the non-dominant eye when a person is unable to focus both eyes on the subject.


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Jul 11, 2009 23:26 |  #5

LooseScrews wrote in post #8265383 (external link)
HOW TO DETERMINE YOUR DOMINANT EYE

Reach a full arm's length away from you and point an anything with your index finger and close your left eye. If you are still pointing at the object, you have a dominant right eye. If you are not, then you have a dominant left eye.

Why is this important? In order to shoot with both eyes open, you will need to concentrate your efforts on the non-dominant eye. The human brain will completely ignore the image coming from the non-dominant eye when a person is unable to focus both eyes on the subject.

Does it matter which arm you point with?


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Jul 11, 2009 23:30 |  #6

DStanic wrote in post #8265417 (external link)
Does it matter which arm you point with?

Nope. And you may find that your are using your non-dominant eye to look through the viewfinder, especially since all cameras I have ever seen are made for right handed people.


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Jul 11, 2009 23:36 |  #7

And if you think your skills are up to a challenge, try shooting Martin birds in flight and get one to fill more than a speck in the frame. ;)


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Jul 11, 2009 23:49 |  #8

I am finding this difficult, with varying results depending what arm I am pointing with. I am used to shooting with my left eye but don't think it's possible to shoot with both eyes this way because I wear glasses (right vision is messed when the glasses pressed to the viewfinder. either I need to shoot with my right eye (which isn't THAT much of a problem, just not use to it) or get contacts if I'm gonna shoot sports. lol


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Jul 11, 2009 23:59 |  #9

DStanic wrote in post #8265498 (external link)
I am finding this difficult, with varying results depending what arm I am pointing with. I am used to shooting with my left eye but don't think it's possible to shoot with both eyes this way because I wear glasses (right vision is messed when the glasses pressed to the viewfinder. either I need to shoot with my right eye (which isn't THAT much of a problem, just not use to it) or get contacts if I'm gonna shoot sports. lol

I don't have glasses and didn't think about that being a problem. Also, I don't think it is important to have 100% focus with the secondary eye, just be able to observe what is going on outside the tunnel of the viewfinder. In other words, see the ball being pitched although you may not see the seams. :cool:


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Jul 12, 2009 15:34 |  #10

I do this by mistake sometimes. I find it's just distracting. It can be useful for those situations, but I find it induces visual illusions (like if a house is visible in your left eye, and your telephoto zooming on some street, the house will appear over the road in your right eye), or sometimes visual focus just switches between eyes.


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Jul 12, 2009 15:54 |  #11

I shoot with both eyes open at off-road races so I don't get hit by a truck.



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Aug 01, 2009 11:22 |  #12

Prefocusing & precomposing are oldschool sports photog tactics - hell you don't even need to have an eye on the camera once you've set it up so you could go back to one-eye shooting ;)



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Aug 01, 2009 11:25 |  #13

TeeTee wrote in post #8380809 (external link)
Prefocusing & precomposing are oldschool sports photog tactics - hell you don't even need to have an eye on the camera once you've set it up so you could go back to one-eye shooting ;)

For those shots, yes. But a large majority of my shots, whether sports or whatever, are taken while 'tracking' a subject.


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Aug 01, 2009 21:02 |  #14

I use both eyes all the time for concert shooting and sports. I find it invaluable for helping to anticipate the action. It was also very helpful for shooting an airshow last weekend.

It has really become second-nature for me at this point.


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Aug 02, 2009 23:45 |  #15

DDCSD wrote in post #8382965 (external link)
I use both eyes all the time for concert shooting and sports. I find it invaluable for helping to anticipate the action. It was also very helpful for shooting an airshow last weekend.

It has really become second-nature for me at this point.

Same here. I've gotten so used to it as of lately. It really does help to keep the entire field in perspective.


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