UK South-East "Mainly Under 5'11" Gossip Thread (5)

Cracking shirt pete..........

Pete wrote in post #8748005
Moire is the small spots you see when you see a scanned photo sometimes, especially if it's scanned from a newspaper/magazine.

As an example:-

(it's me as a kid, BTW)

Box Brownie wrote in post #8748098
the greater fear is the mad cartoonist

Anke wrote in post #8748697
Awww, cute.
Right, where's Mike?

There's not much I can do to add to the comedy...

KCY wrote in post #8749091
hey mike can I possibly borrow bits of your drawings for my own little theatre of cruelty?

I just had a little spark that may or may not work

Help yourself!

Dilemma: Alamy the picture agency telephoned and e-mailed me today asking about one of my images that they would like to sell to a client for a nationwide advertising campaign. Trouble is I'd marked it as Editorial Only, i.e. no advertising as the shot was taken on Private Property.
The agency said that the buyers would be responsible for getting all the releases and would take full responsibilty for anything.
Should I sell it?
I have been asked many times when shooting on this property if I am for commercial reasons and have always said no, so to then sell an image I took under this pretence would be wrong, no?

Thoughts?

Can you agree to sell as long as the buyer obtains useage rights? You may need to enter into an agreement with them or something. Maybe it's something Alamy has handled before.

Well done by the way!

Anke wrote in post #8749633
Dilemma: Alamy the picture agency telephoned and e-mailed me today asking about one of my images that they would like to sell to a client for a nationwide advertising campaign. Trouble is I'd marked it as Editorial Only, i.e. no advertising as the shot was taken on Private Property.
The agency said that the buyers would be responsible for getting all the releases and would take full responsibilty for anything.
Should I sell it?
I have been asked many times when shooting on this property if I am for commercial reasons and have always said no, so to then sell an image I took under this pretence would be wrong, no?

Thoughts?

What Pete said!

Do you have a linky to the image?!

Congrats!

So many !!'s in one message. I clearly need sleep!

!!

From what you have said the buyer will take care of any releases so presumably if whoever owns the property would get something for allowing the picture to be released and if they disagreed the picture would not be used and remain for editorial only. I would in this case agree. ~Are you allowed to tell us what the picture is of or even better show us??

The only issue would be if you know the people involved, then if it were me I would contact them first.

Congratulations!!

My only worry is that I was told not to shoot there for commercial reasons, and went ahead. The usual way is to get permission first before shooting, not wait until a sale. The buyer is accepting full responsibility but that doesn't stop me getting into trouble I reckon.

Here's a little something i made,

Many many thanks to Mike for letting me use his drawings!!

Hope you like it

Pete wrote in post #8749689
Can you agree to sell as long as the buyer obtains useage rights? You may need to enter into an agreement with them or something. Maybe it's something Alamy has handled before.

Well done by the way!

I think this is what I might do, rather than sell first. Although it is tempting to take the money and run.

KCY wrote in post #8749903
Here's a little something i made,

Many many thanks to Mike for letting me use his drawings!!

Hope you like it
...

EDIT: is it a bit quick??

This thread gets a little bit madder every day

Anke wrote in post #8749877
My only worry is that I was told not to shoot there for commercial reasons, and went ahead. The usual way is to get permission first before shooting, not wait until a sale. The buyer is accepting full responsibility but that doesn't stop me getting into trouble I reckon.

Great to get that sort potential sale. And yes it seems that Alamy (their client) will aim to obtain authority to use it but the one stickng point is :-

1) Why do "they" ask about the reason for yuo taking the pictures in that area e.g. is it that if you admited commercail usage they a) might refuse or b) charge you a hefty fee for the privilege

2) Once "they" are contacted it may become obvious you were the tog and you would be banned in future ~ see 1) above

Having said that interpretation it is your call ~ if the single sale is high enough value then jsut go for it?

Anke wrote in post #8749930
This thread gets a little bit madder every day

I'm more than happy to help

Off to bed, didn't realise how long that took.

Box Brownie wrote in post #8749943
Great to get that sort potential sale. And yes it seems that Alamy (their client) will aim to obtain authority to use it but the one stickng point is :-

1) Why do "they" ask about the reason for yuo taking the pictures in that area e.g. is it that if you admited commercail usage they a) might refuse or b) charge you a hefty fee for the privilege

2) Once "they" are contacted it may become obvious you were the tog and you would be banned in future ~ see 1) above

Having said that interpretation it is your call ~ if the single sale is high enough value then jsut go for it?

1) They don't allow commercial photography as it's private property and they will charge you to shoot commercially.
2) Yes, if they find out it was me then I'd probably be banned or at least contacted in some way.

I calculated the price and it should be four figures easy. Big dilemma.

Anke wrote in post #8750004
1) They don't allow commercial photography as it's private property and they will charge you to shoot commercially.
2) Yes, if they find out it was me then I'd probably be banned or at least contacted in some way.

I calculated the price and it should be four figures easy. Big dilemma.

Based on your feedback on my questions/thoughts it is your call but if you made the sale IMO make sure you get the full value i.e. you are not subbing the Alamy/client paying the commercial usage fee (retrospectively paid?)

Also make it a condition that they "disclaimer you" from further action by the Private Property owners though if such were done that may still preclude you from taking anymore pictures there?

Based on editorial use only what is its Alamy value?

Box Brownie wrote in post #8750044
Based on your feedback on my questions/thoughts it is your call but if you made the sale IMO make sure you get the full value i.e. you are not subbing the Alamy/client paying the commercial usage fee (retrospectively paid?)

Also make it a condition that they "disclaimer you" from further action by the Private Property owners though if such were done that may still preclude you from taking anymore pictures there?

Based on editorial use only what is its Alamy value?

I'm thinking of calling the owners and explaining the situation that someone saw the photo I took and then offered to buy it, and then asking if they can.
What do you think of that solution?