Leaping nymph...

korrektor wrote in post #8308239
let's put it this way: It's a cool picture, but not a good photograph.

I like this quote...

korrektor wrote in post #8308239
let's put it this way: It's a cool picture, but not a good photograph.

Care to tell us how you perceive the difference (between a picture and a photograph)?

hmmm hmmm a question from Mr. moderator ) gotta put it nicely

To me a photograph is a combination of an idea, emotion, careful composition thoughtful lighting, technical skill and love for the art.

A picture is just one of the listed qualities.

It is easy to produce an image with a camera. Just like it is easy for a child to produce a smudge on a piece of paper. Only will, determination and talent will eventually turn smudges into works of art. The same with photography.

This is just my opinion and nothing else thus I use it to judge the work of others and my own.

korrektor wrote in post #8315963
hmmm hmmm a question from Mr. moderator ) gotta put it nicely

To me a photograph is a combination of an idea, emotion, careful composition thoughtful lighting, technical skill and love for the art.

A picture is just one of the listed qualities.

It is easy to produce an image with a camera. Just like it is easy for a child to produce a smudge on a piece of paper. Only will, determination and talent will eventually turn smudges into works of art. The same with photography.

This is just my opinion and nothing else thus I use it to judge the work of others and my own.

Oh, we should always speak gently and with respect regardless of who is asking the question. Manners are the lubricant in the gears of society.

In this particular image I see the capture of what Henri Cartier-Bresson called the "decisive moment" in which everything comes together to create a composition that defines that slice of time. In this case the apex of the subject's leap into the air, the angle of her limbs and the spray of water from her foot capture the exhilaration of the moment and the peak of action. To me, that makes it a photograph and not just a "cool picture."

Sure, the OP used a fast frame rate, but he was there to capture the moment, follow the action, and share the fun of the leap with an audience. An image doesn't have to be technically perfect in order to evoke a feeling in the viewer.

phamster wrote in post #8308007
my thought is it just happened and it turned out ok..

wasn't planed..

the great korrektor smacks down another one.. ha ha

Not every image has to be planned to be good. Some of the best journalistic images were not planned, but were a matter of the photographer being in the right place at the right time with the right equipment.

And, smacking down an aspiring photographer should not be our purpose here on POTN. Instead, we should be encouraging others to become better. It's one thing to point out the flaws in an image, but a greater thing to help point out what was done right and how to improve the image the next time such an opportunity presents itself.

Interesting, Adams usually refered to his images as pictures and I rarely see anything that come close to his PICTURES no matter what they're called.

the definition of what you call Adam's PICTURES is what I call photographs... no matter what you call them, they are works of art.
I will agree to disagree here. To each - his own. However... there will always be a reason why some "pictures" are considered good and vice versa.

I am not trying to discourage creation of beautiful images. I am trying to discourage mediocrity and whenever I stumble upon an example of it, I voice my opinion... I apologize if I hurt someones personal feelings. I'm just trying to be constructive.

I can't speak as to whether the OP got his feelings hurt or not. I somehow doubt it, since he got a number of positive comments as well. However, constructive means more than just pointing out the perceived flaws in an image. Anyone can do that. A photographer with real talent, however, can not only point out the flaws, but point out the best things about the images, and provide suggestions on how to eliminate or minimize the "flaws." The goal is for everyone to improve through shared knowledge.

Mark_Cohran wrote in post #8317805
I can't speak as to whether the OP got his feelings hurt or not. I somehow doubt it, since he got a number of positive comments as well. However, constructive means more than just pointing out the perceived flaws in an image. Anyone can do that. A photographer with real talent, however, can not only point out the flaws, but point out the best things about the images, and provide suggestions on how to eliminate or minimize the "flaws." The goal is for everyone to improve through shared knowledge.

I assure you all that my "feelings" are not "hurt" regarding some comments about my picture/photograph. I primarily shoot birds and wildlife. The situation of the girl running into the water presented itself and I started firing. It is what it is; nothing more or nothing less. I think its a "fair" shot on the spur of the moment. It is certainly not "art" in the classic sense, but the shot makes the viewer pause just for a second look. Thanks to all who viewed..

golfshoe wrote in post #8318157
I assure you all that my "feelings" are not "hurt" regarding some comments about my picture/photograph. I primarily shoot birds and wildlife. The situation of the girl running into the water presented itself and I started firing. It is what it is; nothing more or nothing less. I think its a "fair" shot on the spur of the moment. It is certainly not "art" in the classic sense, but the shot makes the viewer pause just for a second look. Thanks to all who viewed..

Given the circumstances, I think it's a great capture. I certainly like it for the reasons I listed above. Thanks for sharing it with us.

I like the shot; beautifully timed, even if you did have to use rapid fire to get it. I would have liked it more if it had been a bit sharper, but that's tough to manage with someone running, especially since you say you weren't planning it.

I'm glad we have an understanding when it comes to art and a simple capture. Both deserve to exist and I am fine with it. I'm glad my comments were not taken too close to heart.

P.S.
Frankly, there's definitely something awesome about a birder on a beach

golfshoe wrote in post #8318157
I assure you all that my "feelings" are not "hurt" regarding some comments about my picture/photograph. I primarily shoot birds and wildlife. The situation of the girl running into the water presented itself and I started firing. It is what it is; nothing more or nothing less. I think its a "fair" shot on the spur of the moment. It is certainly not "art" in the classic sense, but the shot makes the viewer pause just for a second look. Thanks to all who viewed..

Mark_Cohran wrote in post #8317805
However, constructive means more than just pointing out the perceived flaws in an image. Anyone can do that. A photographer with real talent, however, can not only point out the flaws, but point out the best things about the images, and provide suggestions on how to eliminate or minimize the "flaws." The goal is for everyone to improve through shared knowledge.

Thank you, Mark.
I am not really sure about the talent - critique correlation, but overall I agree.
The goal is for everyone to improve and improve we will.

korrektor wrote in post #8318921
Thank you, Mark.
I am not really sure about the talent - critique correlation, but overall I agree.
The goal is for everyone to improve and improve we will.

I have to agree with Korrektor on this one. I can point out the positive and suggest improvements, but I have very little talent when it comes to my own photos.

just like not all referees are great soccer players...
not all movie critics are amazing directors
not all Russians are great vodka drinkers
not all Dutch prostitutes are... well, you get the point