Canon DSLR FPS...

I do not know if it is a combination of buffer and mechanical or just one of the 2 or more reasons why some Canon cameras have "slower" FPS.

I am curious of how many would like to see Canon implement a sort of high FPS for only short bursts. Like 7-9 FPS for only 12-15 shots.

I suppose this would only work if the difficulty is getting the FPS that high is limited to mechanical/buffer or even power supply like in Nikon camp.

It's a combo of both.

Mechanically, the shutter/mirror has to move much faster. Therefore, it's subjected to much higher forces. To cope with that, it has to be built more robustly. That in turn, costs more money. They need to cut expenses somewhere to bring cameras to us cheaply.

Another issue is that even if the buffer and shutter could handle a high burst rate, it would need the support of a very advanced and BLAZING FAST autofocus system which is capable of predictive tracking, and can still work while only being able to "see" what you're focusing on during the milliseconds between each burst. It's no coincidence that Nikon's D300/D700 can support both high burst rates AND have the same pro focusing system as the D3.

I think Nikon is software limiting their burst rates in order to sell more grips. I often shoot at 8fps with no grip on my D700, and it works and autofocuses fine.

picturecrazy wrote in post #8307289
It's a combo of both.

I often shoot at 8fps with no grip on my D700, and it works and autofocuses fine.

???
Really with no grip?

I think that statement is fishy also. Right from Nikon's website:

"Continuous shooting speed is up to 5 frames per second with the included Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL3e, and up to 8 frames per second when using the optional Multi-Power Battery Pack MB-D10 and Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL4a/4 or eight AA-size batteries"

That doesn't mean it isn't artificially limited.

mikeassk wrote in post #8307316
???
Really with no grip?

wytwolf wrote in post #8307585
I think that statement is fishy also. Right from Nikon's website:

"Continuous shooting speed is up to 5 frames per second with the included Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL3e, and up to 8 frames per second when using the optional Multi-Power Battery Pack MB-D10 and Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL4a/4 or eight AA-size batteries"

Do you own the D300/D700? If you do, then you probably know that you can get 8fps with no grip just by turning on auto bracketing. But you can also get 8fps without auto bracketing. Just press the shutter release at 8fps and you get 8fps. It's not very hard to do actually.

Which is why I think this 8fps with grip only nonsense is just that. Nonsense. Just to sell more grips.

picturecrazy wrote in post #8307681
Do you own the D300/D700? If you do, then you probably know that you can get 8fps with no grip just by turning on auto bracketing. But you can also get 8fps without auto bracketing. Just press the shutter release at 8fps and you get 8fps. It's not very hard to do actually.

Which is why I think this 8fps with grip only nonsense is just that. Nonsense. Just to sell more grips.

Do you mean press and release the shutter release 8 times per second?

If so, you have some crazy speed!

I've been able to get myself 5 FPS triggered manually on a 1D,. but can't imagine the gunfighter/Video game demigod that can actually trigger a shutter 8 times per second!

Amazing!

Hey I was just asking Lloyd. I did not think it was "fishy". You are perhaps among the most credible sources on this forum.
I am intrigued to here about this as have very limited experience with Nikon DLSR

bigland wrote in post #8307713
Do you mean press and release the shutter release 8 times per second?

If so, you have some crazy speed!

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #8307726
I've been able to get myself 5 FPS triggered manually on a 1D,. but can't imagine the gunfighter/Video game demigod that can actually trigger a shutter 8 times per second!

Amazing!

Get your hands on a D700. It's nowhere near as hard to do as you may think. The button is so sensitive that you really only have to press it a fraction of a millimetre to trigger it. I'll bet i can get 10fps if the camera would let me.

mikeassk wrote in post #8307727
Hey I was just asking Lloyd. I did not think it was "fishy". You are perhaps among the most credible sources on this forum.
I am intrigued to here about this as have very limited experience with Nikon DLSR

Next time you are holding a D700, try it. But you have to be on SINGLE shot mode. If you are on high burst (CH) mode, it will ONLY burst at 5fps no matter how fast you press the shutter. But if you are in single shot mode, 8fps finger presses means 8fps picture taking.

picturecrazy wrote in post #8308262
Get your hands on a D700. It's nowhere near as hard to do as you may think. The button is so sensitive that you really only have to press it a fraction of a millimetre to trigger it. I'll bet i can get 10fps if the camera would let me.


Next time you are holding a D700, try it. But you have to be on SINGLE shot mode. If you are on high burst (CH) mode, it will ONLY burst at 5fps no matter how fast you press the shutter. But if you are in single shot mode, 8fps finger presses means 8fps picture taking.

Sounds like someone needs to come up with a firmware hack for the D700

picturecrazy wrote in post #8308262
Get your hands on a D700. It's nowhere near as hard to do as you may think. The button is so sensitive that you really only have to press it a fraction of a millimetre to trigger it. I'll bet i can get 10fps if the camera would let me.

i'd love to see a video of this. i've used a d700 for quite some time and even with it's softer shutter release, i don't think it's physically possible to get eight, let alone ten frames per second manually.

alt4852 wrote in post #8308328
i'd love to see a video of this. i've used a d700 for quite some time and even with it's softer shutter release, i don't think it's physically possible to get eight, let alone ten frames per second manually.

Videos of getting 8 fps without a grip, although not manually (at least for the first one):

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=sG5UKwgGRJI

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=7SLPBAQ6MZ4

Bob_A wrote in post #8309066
Videos of getting 8 fps without a grip, although not manually (at least for the first one):

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=sG5UKwgGRJI

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=7SLPBAQ6MZ4

that doesn't show anything. i'm wondering how someone can expect to press the shutter release eight to ten times per second on one shot mode.

alt4852 wrote in post #8309339
that doesn't show anything. i'm wondering how someone can expect to press the shutter release eight to ten times per second on one shot mode.

Please see below!

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #8307726
I've been able to get myself 5 FPS triggered manually on a 1D,. but can't imagine the gunfighter/Video game demigod that can actually trigger a shutter 8 times per second!

Amazing!

I have seem some crazy gamers. I am sure the same tapping can be applied to the D700 and its sensitive shutter release.