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Thread started 20 Jul 2009 (Monday) 22:05
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To the guys that shoot sports with 300/400+ primes....

 
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Jul 20, 2009 22:05 |  #1

How do you like it? I'm aware that everyone at a pro level shoots super zoom primes...I'd take it that shooting a prime at long length is an art. My 70-200 is sharp, but i'm considering a longer lens.

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Jul 20, 2009 23:36 |  #2

Switching to a 300+ prime takes practice, especially if you are used to a zoom.

I love my 300


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Jul 21, 2009 00:08 as a reply to  @ eigga's post |  #3

Long lens or short lens, the game is still to aim, frame, fire and control.

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Karts at 400mm. The issue isn't whether the lens is prime or zoom (these images come from a Tokina 80-400mm zoom (external link)), but whether the focal length is suitable for the task. Larger lenses can need a monopod for control, but framing of moving targets is the key.



  
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Jul 21, 2009 07:46 |  #4

I've gone from 300f4 to 100-300f4 back to 300f4 and now 300/2.8. With the prime I find myself a little more mobile, but I find I enjoy shooting sports (Soccer, Baseball football, etc.) more with the prime. It is sharper and the AF is better. I really liked the 300f4, due to it's small size, but the 300/2.8 is just plain awsome, but requires a monopod (mine is the older non-is). May want to try and find an older 300f4 and give it a whirl. Great optics and you can find them realtively cheap. With your mk3, it should shine.

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Jul 21, 2009 07:59 as a reply to  @ packpe89's post |  #5

I have both the 300/2.8 and the 400/2.8 and use them each for different reasons. I started with the 70-200/2.8 and then moved to the Sigma 120-300/2.8 (a great lens, btw). Why, you might ask, to a I have so much glass? For me, it comes down to what am I trying to capture (very close-ups facial expressions or whole athlete sportraits). The variety of the zooms and the primes gives me all the options. At the end of the day, my 400 is the one I shoot with the most, but when I have to travel on a plane it's a little difficult to carry onboard, so the 300 (with an extender) usually tags along instead.

If you go prime, you won't be disappointed. But it does take some practice. The good news is that you have one less thing to worry about when shooting fast action, namely zooming in and out. This alone forces you to become more cognizant of framing and positioning of yourself.


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Jul 21, 2009 12:53 |  #6

eigga wrote in post #8315932 (external link)
Switching to a 300+ prime takes practice, especially if you are used to a zoom.

I love my 300

What he said. +1


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Jul 21, 2009 13:07 |  #7

Zivnuska wrote in post #8318936 (external link)
What he said. +1

and +1 more....I'll add that once you do sort it out, it's much better. I think my framing and timing have both improved since using the prime.


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Jul 21, 2009 13:33 as a reply to  @ namasste's post |  #8

Requires you to think more about you want to capture ahead of time because you don't have as many "short" options.

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Jul 21, 2009 14:11 |  #9

Great input as normal. Thanks guys.

I just picked up a 16-35 f/2.8 L II (to have a nice peice of wide L glass) for the upcoming womens world series of softball that my newspaper is sending me to go shoot in Regensberg Germany.

I'm seriously disputing a 400 prime...or at least renting one for the event.


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Jul 21, 2009 15:20 |  #10

Going from a zoom to a prime, short to long, is just what they said - in need of practice. I went from a 70-200 2.8 to a 120-300 2.8 to a 300 2.8 to a 400 2.8. The biggest jump was from the zoom of the 120-300 to the 300 prime by far.

Depending on size of the stadium the 70-200 is usually my walk around lens on the side as it's not enough reach in most places where pro sports is played. The 400 or 300 is the main, usually with the 400 winning as you can adjust more with it and has more purposes. However, the 300 is a bit sharper for the pixel peepers. You definitely have to think a bit more on what you're shooting and where to go. It's good to have long to short so you can adjust and go anywhere of course.


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Jul 21, 2009 18:45 |  #11

I have a hard time putting my 400 2.8 down to reach for my 70-200 2.8. It may be challenging at first, but once you get the hang of it, is a lot of fun. Picture quality of my old 400 series 1 blows away that of my new 70-200.


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Jul 21, 2009 19:05 |  #12

i love shooting with my 300 2.8 (+/- 1.4 TC), it's a marvel of a lens.


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Jul 21, 2009 21:59 as a reply to  @ AcuraFan's post |  #13

I can only echo the comments given about the 300f2.8 - having recently moved up from a 100-400 f4 to the 300mmf2.8 the quality of the image, the light sensitivity, the responsiveness of the lens is simply awesome. I am using the non-IS model and it is a joy




  
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Jul 22, 2009 03:39 |  #14

Some good comments on here, I shoot with primes and while at first you may think you are missing out on shots, I have never come home thinking I haven't taken enough shots. The increase in quality is amazing too.


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Jul 22, 2009 10:29 |  #15

I also love shooting with my 300/2.8 + 1.4x TC as needed. I shoot a wide variety of Sports & Events. Most of the time, the 300, just works!!


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