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Jul 22, 2009 15:04 |  #1

I've been working on another DIY bag project lately. I've been wanting a good backpack lately and haven't been able to find anything that does what I want w/o being huge or uncomfortable or both (the Kata 3n1 I have is much bigger and more cumbersome than I need). So I was searching B&H/flickr a few weeks ago and stumbled upon this tenba insert:

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So for $25 shipped it looked like a promising start, but notice there's no sizing on their page for it? :diaf: One of the reviewers listed some rough dimensions which sounded good so I ordered one. (Tenba/B&H have another insert that's similar and $25->$30 shipped that's 12x9x4.5).

This is what it looks like with a 100-400 on the right with it's hood reversed(which is the same size as a 70-200 basically) and a 24-105 on the left with it's hood reversed (the camera with ANY of my lenses will go in the center tube):
IMAGE: http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/tenba-insert/img_0224.jpg

Add to the insert any of my collection of decent riding backpacks and I have a decent start on my DIY backpack (this is a burton 11liter AK pack I picked up on whiskeymilitia for $20):
IMAGE: http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/tenba-insert/img_0222.jpg

you can see above that there's room above the insert for another lens or some accessories (that's a 17-40). I can also fit 2 X-pro filters and the older between the back side of the insert and the outside of the bag, and there's a small accessory pocket at the top.

I can actually "sling" this bag in front of my and access all my gear, he's what it looks like when in front of me (slung over my left shoulder, but you could do this the other way if you prefer as the zipper goes all the way around):
IMAGE: http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/tenba-insert/img_0226.jpg

in the above picture you can also see my biggest complaint about this setup; the zipper doesn't go all the way to the bottom which means the bottom "tube" of the insert is a bit tricky to get into. You can do it, easily in fact if you set the bag down, but doing it standing is a tad trickier (still possible). If the zipper went to the bottom it'd be very easy.

Here's the outside of the pack I'm using:
IMAGE: http://gear.benjacobsenphoto.com/wp-content/gallery/tenba-insert/img_0221.jpg

and in that shot you can see my other complaint. This pack is designed to carry a snowboard for backcountry hiking. The straps for the board aren't needed and I'll be cutting them off. There's also a avalanche shovel handle holder on the right (top of the picture) which actually works very well for my tripod. There's a GIANT exterior pocket (for an avi shovel blade) which I could remove or ignore. Basically, there's straps everywhere than aren't being used and I should remove.

my other complaints are that the sternum strap is under my chin, and the waist belt doesn't have a pocket to tuck into. I've been using this to bring my gear with me biking at night in which case I like the waist belt, but when I'm using it as a day bag I don't need it and it'd be nice if I could tuck them away.

All in all it's been a nice bag so far. I need to look into some other packs that have a full zipper and maybe a few less straps, but that'll take a while. But it's amazing what a nice backpack setup can do to make your kit seem much lighter. I've honestly had to stop and open the pack to make sure I didn't leave the camera at home/work a few times because the weight is so much better supported.

The other key here is this insert/bag/setup is basically designed around a body w/o a grip (or 1 series). The insert is 4.5" tall (by 13x9) so it won't really fit a gripped body. I prefer not using grips so this is ideal. This issue comes up for me when shopping for a bag the 100-400 will fit in because whenever a bag is designed to handle a lens that size, it seems it's also designed around a 1 series to go with it (which makes some sense because then everyone can use the bag). But this insert and pack are MUCH slimmer than my Kata, or any other photo backpack for that matter. I LOVE how small it is. The fact it's a simple burton backpack also makes it more stealth.

Hope this helps any of you budget or DIY oriented guys out there get some new bag ideas flowing. I've enjoyed it more than my Kata already and just need to find the perfect backpack.

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Jul 22, 2009 15:39 |  #2

I see what you did. Very nice! I've been thinking about doing that but haven't needed a backpack yet. But the inserts are out of stock!!! STILL!!!! I need one for my new messenger bag I got.


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Jul 22, 2009 17:43 |  #3

Man ... are those things (Tenba messenger inserts) available now? I've had one backordered at Adorama forever. Looks like I need to poke them or look elsewhere.

I love the flexibility of turning regular bags and backpacks into photo capable bags with the Domke and Tenba inserts. Thanks for reminding me.


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Jul 22, 2009 18:03 |  #4

Well, the black one is but the gray one is not. I'm checking Tenba for dimensions on the gray one.

EDIT: Here we go. Copied and pasted...yeah, Idk about that last number. It seems the black one is...roughly the same size. Shoot, I'll just get that. Cheaper than Domkes which went up!

Gray: 13W x 8H x 39576D in
Black: 12W x 9H x4.5D in


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Jul 22, 2009 21:15 |  #5

Very nice! The Tenba and Burton are almost perfect for each other. If you wanted to, you could probably put a shirt or towel under the Tenba(towards the bottom of the bag) to raise the insert up - making access to the lower tube easier.

I have been using the same insert in my Gravis bag. Not a comfy bag(kinda stiff with the laptop pocket) and the zipper doesn't go all the way down, but it works:)

+1 for DIY bags!


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Jul 22, 2009 21:24 as a reply to  @ Hangbot's post |  #6

^ yeah, I thought of the towel/shirt/whatever..​.. but it takes space and adds weight. It's easy enough to slide the bag up so it works this way, I just wish the zipper went all the way down. I also have a DaKine Tram pack that's even smaller (and has no extra straps) but it's zipper is worse as it ends right over the rear LCD and is a tad snugger. It'd be PERFECT if it went to the bottom, but the way it is now it's too much of an LCD scratch risk (and I have a cover).


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May 16, 2011 21:38 as a reply to  @ jacobsen1's post |  #7

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I just wanted to thank you for the great idea. I recently purchased a Burton AK 15L pack along with the Tenba insert, and have been more than happy with it so far.

When placed sideways, this pack (which I'm assuming is slightly larger than your AK 11L pack above) is just the right size for the Tenba insert. I did place a small amount of foam underneath the insert to raise it up a bit, which allows for better access to the camera/lenses. Note that the main zipper only runs down one side of the pack. This is a good thing in my opinion, since it allows me to sling the pack around my right shoulder for easy access to the camera, while preventing the gear inside from accidentally slipping through the other side (which could happen with other packs if you forgot which side you left the zipper pulls on).

Also, the ski pole carrying system works perfectly for a small tripod. Though it's not necessary, I did stick a small piece of velcro (just the soft side) underneath the plastic connectors so that they didn't scratch up the carbon fiber.

I've been loving this pack so far. Even fully loaded, it's very lightweight. And due to it's slim profile (keep in mind this pack was designed for chairlift use), I don't notice it as much, and I don't seem to bang into as much stuff while wearing it. Enough talking - here are the pics:

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May 17, 2011 08:34 |  #8

very nice, where'd you get the bag from?


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May 17, 2011 13:39 |  #9

Thanks, I actually found the pack new on eBay for a decent price, although you can still find a few outdoor shops that still have some in stock if you're willing to pay MSRP.




  
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