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Dec 26, 2006 12:04 |  #7426

I went through the exact same decision and took the 400/5.6, magnificently sharp though it was, off the table because of the lack of IS.

You know my favorite animal.. and it tends to stay on the ground rather than become airborne, therefore IS is a gigantic asset. For airborne critters, I don't find IS very useful, in fact I switch it off because I am usually fighting IS while panning on both axis.

The 300/4 ISL is magnificent.. give it 1/3rd of a stop and sharpness approaches the 'out of the world' feeling that you get only from things like the 60 macro.. which is my reference standard for resolving power. The 60 macro should be an L.. it smacks most L's silly.

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The best part is that the 60 macro is built on plain glass.. no exotics. The only unusual aspect to its construction is the presence of a sub-aperture before the main EMD aperture system - in other words it has a two-stage aperture with two sets of blades instead of just one set.



  
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Dec 26, 2006 12:07 as a reply to  @ Lightstream's post |  #7427

Yes, that's the dilemma...the reach or the IS...but I'm thinking the IS is going to win. We'll see, since I'm not buying until spring. Just watching the threads and seeing what's posted with what.


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Dec 26, 2006 12:12 |  #7428

Here's my take on the situation... (as an ex-300/4ISL owner)

Autofocus speed is awesome. A true testament to Canon's RIng USM technology. Problem is, TC's rob autofocus speed because even their 1.4X TC brakes the lens to around 60% of its normal speed in order to give AF more time to lock on.

Non-reporting TC's have one more advantage - by not reporting their presence to the camera, AF operates at FULL speed (at the risk of AF inaccuracy). My Kenko certainly didn't tell the camera about it, and AF speed with and without the teleconverter was too close to call. Unfortunately, you and I know those non-reporting TC's may not exactly be the finest pieces of optical engineering on earth...

If I had to do it all again (and I might), I would buy the Real Thing - the Canon EF 1.4 Extender TC.

Doesn't that rob AF speed...correct.

There is also a reason why I keep a tape gun on my desk... :D I would have no hesitation taping the pins to disguise the TC's presence, for both interoperability on my 100-400, and max AF speed on all my other lenses.

But then again remember I am the one who used 2-part industrial epoxy to permanently bond a FD 50/1.8 onto an EF mount... :D




  
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Dec 26, 2006 13:14 |  #7429
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Lightstream wrote in post #2446818 (external link)
But then again remember I am the one who used 2-part industrial epoxy to permanently bond a FD 50/1.8 onto an EF mount... :D

Hmmm. I have an FD mount "nifty fifty." Never thought of that.

Good day all! I just checked my email to find an invitation to Miller's Labs. They must have been monitoring my volume on their consumer site, Mpix. Anybody here ever use them for hosting? I've seen them mentioned a couple of times on DWF, but I think most of the pro's over there use Bluhost and Pick Pic carts.



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Dec 26, 2006 13:40 |  #7430
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Hey, check out this site. It shows how much photos are altered for magazine shots. Roll your mouse over the image to see the difference. Pretty freaky!

http://homepage.mac.co​m …gital/bikini/bi​kini1.html (external link)



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Dec 26, 2006 13:45 |  #7431

wow liza, that crazy....


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Dec 26, 2006 13:49 |  #7432
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kathy.patterson wrote in post #2447048 (external link)
wow liza, that crazy....

I'm tellin' ya! Hell, if you can do that much in Photoshop, even an old bat like me could be in a magazine. :lol:



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Dec 26, 2006 14:00 |  #7433

Morning everyone

liza wrote in post #2447042 (external link)
Hey, check out this site. It shows how much photos are altered for magazine shots. Roll your mouse over the image to see the difference. Pretty freaky!

http://homepage.mac.co​m …gital/bikini/bi​kini1.html (external link)

that's a interesting link, it just goes to show you don't believe everything you see is the way it is.


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Dec 26, 2006 14:33 |  #7434

Darn, can't look at the link now. I love those websites that show before & after retouch work.


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Dec 26, 2006 14:55 |  #7435

liza wrote in post #2447064 (external link)
I'm tellin' ya! Hell, if you can do that much in Photoshop, even an old bat like me could be in a magazine. :lol:

...if they can do things like that, makes me wonder why they bother photographing anyone at all...

and frankly, I think the girl's body shape looked better before the editing. The skin smoothing definitely helped though...


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Dec 26, 2006 15:56 |  #7436

posted this a few months back.
http://www.campaignfor​realbeauty.com/flat4.a​sp?id=6909 (external link)




  
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Dec 26, 2006 16:26 |  #7437

I admit to smoothing a bit of skin, brightning up dark circles, burning lips & cloning away imperfections. I don't do body sculpting though in PS.


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Dec 26, 2006 16:33 |  #7438
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About the only thing I do is clone out zits on high school senior portraits. And, Wu, I saw the same link you posted in the DWF thread where I saw this one. I think if more people "campaigned" for real beauty in advertising, we wouldn't have so many screwed up teenagers with a warped sense of beauty. With that said, I'm not giving up my new wrinkle cream!



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Dec 26, 2006 16:44 |  #7439

liza wrote in post #2447595 (external link)
About the only thing I do is clone out zits on high school senior portraits. And, Wu, I saw the same link you posted in the DWF thread where I saw this one. I think if more people "campaigned" for real beauty in advertising, we wouldn't have so many screwed up teenagers with a warped sense of beauty. With that said, I'm not giving up my new wrinkle cream!

Kids and grown-ups alike love it when I do that.


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Dec 26, 2006 16:57 |  #7440

Real beauty. Hm. I'm not sure I'd like to see Oprah without all that makeup. Huga,she isn't good looking at all...


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