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Jul 04, 2019 06:46 |  #5311

Am I allowed to ask general questions here? If no, some guidance, please. My everyday shooters are 35mm. My 'good stuff' is 645 film gear. For want of a larger negative, I am considering a Mamiya RB67 of one flavor or another. I do have a decent tripod. I pay for developing, shoot negative film only, pay for high-res scanning for my 645 film, scan my own 35mm with OpticFilm 7600i, and would pay for high-res 6x7 scans. I know I will enjoy the all manual process. Photographically, is adding 6x7 going to make any difference? Considering a Pro-S w/90mm on E-Bay for $300.


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Jul 04, 2019 07:25 |  #5312

PentaxShooter wrote in post #18888094 (external link)
Am I allowed to ask general questions here?

Ask away.


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Jul 04, 2019 11:15 |  #5313

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Am I allowed to ask general questions here? If no, some guidance, please. My everyday shooters are 35mm. My 'good stuff' is 645 film gear. For want of a larger negative, I am considering a Mamiya RB67 of one flavor or another. I do have a decent tripod. I pay for developing, shoot negative film only, pay for high-res scanning for my 645 film, scan my own 35mm with OpticFilm 7600i, and would pay for high-res 6x7 scans. I know I will enjoy the all manual process. Photographically, is adding 6x7 going to make any difference? Considering a Pro-S w/90mm on E-Bay for $300.

This forum is for discussion of all film, which definitely includes questions.
When shooting medium format, I chose square, and shot with some cropping in mind. I had often thought about getting a 6x7, but never did. If you think it would be useful for your style of shooting, by all means, get one. All I'm saying is, it's not absolutely necessary, but again, that's a subjective comment for my shooting style.
One thing to bear in mind is, the 6x7 will use slightly more film, thereby, a slight increase in cost to you.
Here's a handy wiki on that, that also describes the shots available for 645, vs 6x6, and 6x7. Scroll about halfway down for the chart.
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/120_film (external link)
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Jul 04, 2019 12:27 |  #5314

Ballen Photo wrote in post #18888181 (external link)
This forum is for discussion of all film, which definitely includes questions.
When shooting medium format, I chose square, and shot with some cropping in mind. I had often thought about getting a 6x7, but never did. If you think it would be useful for your style of shooting, by all means, get one. All I'm saying is, it's not absolutely necessary, but again, that's a subjective comment for my shooting style.
One thing to bear in mind is, the 6x7 will use slightly more film, thereby, a slight increase in cost to you.
Here's a handy wiki on that, that also describes the shots available for 645, vs 6x6, and 6x7. Scroll about halfway down for the chart.
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/120_film (external link)
Happy shooting. ;-)a

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I guess the move into 6x7 is not so much a need as a desire for a different experience. I already shoot 645 and 6x6. The calculus of film cost is almost irrelevant. I could pick up the 80D and have no film cost. Digital serves a purpose, but most days it takes the fun out of photography. I much prefer the purposeful, intentional process of manual photography. Well, prefer is the wrong word. I shoot digital when I need the speed of AF and instant, infinite adjustability. When I have a specific shot in mind, and time to make it, film satisfies the creative need that got me started with photography. Digital could probably do the same, if I let it. But, if true medium format digital existed, I couldn't afford it. All this pondering has almost convinced me to just buy the RB67. It will be a new experience.


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Jul 04, 2019 15:04 |  #5315

PentaxShooter wrote in post #18888200 (external link)
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I guess the move into 6x7 is not so much a need as a desire for a different experience. I already shoot 645 and 6x6. The calculus of film cost is almost irrelevant. I could pick up the 80D and have no film cost. Digital serves a purpose, but most days it takes the fun out of photography. I much prefer the purposeful, intentional process of manual photography. Well, prefer is the wrong word. I shoot digital when I need the speed of AF and instant, infinite adjustability. When I have a specific shot in mind, and time to make it, film satisfies the creative need that got me started with photography. Digital could probably do the same, if I let it. But, if true medium format digital existed, I couldn't afford it. All this pondering has almost convinced me to just buy the RB67. It will be a new experience.

Thanks, I believe I misspoke my terminology. The larger formats will use more of the roll per shot, giving you fewer shots.
I would have loved to have had an RB67. As I'm sure you already know, the "RB" part of the name stands for roll back, and would be quite useful when changing from landscape to portrait.
From the sound of it, you are already quite hooked on film, so have fun. If you can find a good RB67, go for it. :-)


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Jul 04, 2019 15:26 |  #5316

You guys need to jump straight to 11x14 and skip all this medium format nonsense. :-)

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Jul 04, 2019 15:47 |  #5317

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You guys need to jump straight to 11x14 and skip all this medium format nonsense. :-)
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Haha! But one sheet would be as much as um, a lot of rolls of 120. I had a 4" x 5" camera a while back, and that's not even close. :twisted:


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Jul 04, 2019 16:08 |  #5318

Ballen Photo wrote in post #18888291 (external link)
Haha! But one sheet would be as much as um, a lot of rolls of 120. I had a 4" x 5" camera a while back, and that's not even close. :twisted:

$8 a sheet for HP5. Not too bad. Ilford just upped it to $12 a sheet though. Luckily, I bought the last of the "cheap" stuff from B&H so I won't have to restock for at least a year.
I mainly shoot tintypes with the 11x14 anyway. 11x14 negatives have an incredible amount of information on them.


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Jul 04, 2019 16:12 |  #5319

11"x14"! Wow. My first thought was that I'd have to be a lot better photographer to justify that kind of cost.


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Jul 04, 2019 18:24 |  #5320

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11"x14"! Wow. My first thought was that I'd have to be a lot better photographer to justify that kind of cost.

Contact printing that large a negative more than makes up for the price.


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Jul 04, 2019 18:34 |  #5321

Cuypers1807 wrote in post #18888353 (external link)
Contact printing that large a negative more than makes up for the price.

Maybe so, but it is not for me. I spent the summer of 1975 in the darkroom. Never again. I learned to absolutely hate it. I will always pay for developing, and frequently pay for scanning. I do my own post processing in LR6, but do pay for printing the results.


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Jul 04, 2019 19:10 |  #5322

PentaxShooter wrote in post #18888358 (external link)
Maybe so, but it is not for me. I spent the summer of 1975 in the darkroom. Never again. I learned to absolutely hate it. I will always pay for developing, and frequently pay for scanning. I do my own post processing in LR6, but do pay for printing the results.

And I miss my ol' darkroom. Lots of rolls of film went thru the soup and a lot of fond memories enlarging and printing. I keep talking about firing it up again, but think it may be nostalgia talking.


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Jul 04, 2019 23:04 |  #5323

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I mainly shoot tintypes with the 11x14 anyway. 11x14 negatives have an incredible amount of information on them.

Good thing you stocked up before that 50% increase.
Never done the tintype thing. I may have to look into that someday. :-)


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Jul 05, 2019 08:00 |  #5324

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Good thing you stocked up before that 50% increase.
Never done the tintype thing. I may have to look into that someday. :-)

You should. It is a lot of fun... really the most hands on form of photography... also one of the most archival.
I love shooting portraits. This one is 8x10:

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Jul 10, 2019 13:16 |  #5325

Don't overlook the alternate 6x4.5 back for the RB67. It gives you 15 exposures (120 film) instead of the standard 10 for 6x7 negs. If you're used to cropping 6x6 to a horizontal or vertical format, the 6x4.5 is a good option and can be switched mid-roll with a 6x7 back on the RB.

Be aware that the RB weighs a ton and is huge (as are the lenses, which are also fairly inexpensive these days on eBay), so you're getting closer to Ansel Adams' technique in the field. I've used it in the field, but have seen many more in portrait studios. But the 6x7 prints are amazing. I used to shoot 120 Ektachrome transparency film and print directly onto Cibachrome reversal paper. Just amazing detail.


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