Volleyball photos + an issue

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HotShots wrote in post #8364745
Twice now, I have forgotten to check the email notification box. Hopefully the third times a charm.

I have it on by default for instant notification but I have found this forum can be funky and many times I just don't get the notification until I log in and notice I have a few unread threads.

HotShots wrote in post #8364734
This paragraph is the one I have the most problem with. Please keep in mind -- I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just not sure I agree.

When I have shot only select players at an event or game, 100% of the time I have a parent question why there are no pictures of their child. They may not have paid me up front to shoot them, but they COULDN'T pay on the back end because I had nothing.

If Stacy's mom objects to pictures of Tina, then Stacy's mom can go jump in a lake. If Tina's mom objects, then we've got a basis for discussion. If Stacy's mom is complaining about another players pictures, I tend to believe she's not nearly as concerned about the pictures as she is that the other player got 30 seconds more playing time, or had too many fouls, or some other stupid thing. Complaining about the pictures might be the only way she can even the field.

It is our job to deliver memories, but only within the realm of reality. If they don't want to remember the spankies, I can't photoshop sweats on them (well, maybe I could, but I'm not going to). If they don't want to remember the bad call by the ref or the missed free throw at the end, or a dropped pass in the end zone, that's not my problem. I shoot what I'm given. They can like it or not. They can buy it or not. But, I have done my job of delivering the memories as they happened.

haveing said all that, my daughter is a gymnast. I am hyper sensitive to TRULY inappropriate pictures. but, I have found after learning the timing of the sport, I am getting fewer and fewer pictures that have to be deleted because of this type of issue.

I hope that all made sense. It's been a long day and I'm having brain cramps.

TDF

** By the way, to the OP -- I love the pictures. Job well done!!

These are excellent points. I tend to think about it in terms of the tight community that club volleyball is in my area. I need the parents to feel like I'm with them on whatever is going on, as much as I can.

And club parents run thick as theives. If Stacy's mom comes to me with a complaint, and she doesn't feel like I'm listening, it doesn't take much to turn that just a little bit, and suddenly I'm characterized as the villian among all the parents.

And, the 800lb gorilla is that we are discussing youth sexuality. You can't afford to be too cavailier about that in this day and age.

Now -- if I was hired by the AAU to shoot the event on a one time deal -- and I got a complaint -- I would adopt your attitude to a tee. I don't have to see those folks anymore, they didn't pay me, and its all legal and on the up and up.

KennethGomez wrote in post #8364364
All in all I can somewhat see the concern, I guess. I have to admit that when these girls wear that spandex, sometimes there's no denying that you can clearly see the shape of their vagina coming through. But the focus of the pictures is the sport and the game.

That's the key. If you were submitting hundreds of shots zoomed in on these girls' butts/crotches/breasts​, THEN they would have reason for a major complaint. Of course, you'd have to be the dumbest photographer in the world to submit that.....

My Daughter has been playing Club for 3 years,ive been close to all the other parents,never once did I hear something about the shorts.

if a persons focus is on that particular area ,they are the one with the issue(s)

Good shots

SL 585 wrote in post #8409511
My Daughter has been playing Club for 3 years,ive been close to all the other parents,never once did I hear something about the shorts.

if a persons focus is on that particular area ,they are the one with the issue(s)

Good shots

A big +1 to that. I've also been involved with Club and HS volleyball and have never heard anything as outrageous as that. It seems a little petty to me. The spandex shorts are recognised as part of a volleyball uniform. What's next, swim suits for the swim team?

Swimsuits are even worse compared to the buns in volleyball. Not to mention the boys suits are way more revealing.

My daughter plays for her 8th grade team for volleyball. They mostly wear spandex underneath their shorts. Non of the girls want to just wear spandex with nothing over them. We will see if it changes next year in HS. My daughter is also on the swim team and spends almost all summer in a one piece swim suit. Even she doesn't like the spandex shorts.

This year I will be shooting my daughter's games for fun. Last year I never bothered to bring my camera. Hopefully I can get one shoot as good as all of yours.

I may have missed it, but I'd like to know the details of your settings for the pictures. My daughter's games start soon and I'd like to try some sports shots at the indoor gyms where she plays games. Thanks!

At doubly higher price for the custom crop.

Where did you shoot these at?

I think the last shoot has a correct focus.

KennethGomez wrote in post #8339881
Hello all. Need some advice here. I'm hired by many parents to take photos at volleyball games. Recently I got a complaint from a parent about some of my pictures. Seems totally unreasonable to me, but please tell me what you think:
She said that she was unhappy that many of my photos included "below the waist", as she put it. She said she thought it was outrageous that I'd have pictures that featured crotches (what a weird thing to say?). I was shocked. Apparently many of the players have an issue with the mandatory spandex shorts. She was upset that my photos included this part. I basically told her, look, I just record the event that takes place, in this case a volleyball game. There's nothing in these pictures that isn't seen by everyone else in attendance. If the issue is with the detail in the shorts, don't blame the photographer!

I am not surprised about anything if you heard only 1/100 of what I hear, you should hang the camera on the nail ...

The world if full of paranoid parents and in same countries this problem is a lot more present.

Listen 'bro, you can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time. I recently had an issue with some blockhead about me posting pictures of a crash that occurred in a cycling race I was photographing. Crashes are part of the god damned sport for crying out loud. In your case, those shorts part of the sport as well- there is nothing YOU can do to change that. If all of your shots were cropped above the waist and you had a whole gallery of shots like that, not only would your photos suck- but no one would buy them.

I say don't even respond to, just ignore this archaic wench.

If I were in your shoes, I'd be darn tempted to respond cynically to the mother: "You know, if you don't want me posting photos of your daughter, I could always post pictures of you wearing these bun-huggers instead."

But then that's why I'm a hobbyist, and not a professional!

I agree with most of this. Suggest to her to take her daughter off the team. Also suggest her to see some shots of gymnast at the the olympics and the "odd" positions they are photographed AND published around the world.

http://www.biggeststar​s.com …3/nadia-comaneci-9915.jpg

http://www.biggeststar​s.com …/nadia-comaneci-9935.jpeg

http://www.football-england.com/images/nad​ia.jpg

Etc...etc.

Last but not least. Tell the coach the issue so he can talk to Mrs Doubtfire...

silvex wrote in post #8656073
Last but not least. Tell the coach the issue so he can talk to Mrs Doubtfire...

that's is awesome!!!!