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Jul 26, 2009 00:50 |  #1

Someone tell me why I need photoshop. I feel I'm missing out by only using Canon DPP. I think I'm intimidated by PS since I've never really used it. I only want to do basic editing, but I get the feeling PS offers a whole lot more "basics" than DPP. And yes I always shoot in RAW.


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Jul 26, 2009 01:19 |  #2

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Someone tell me why I need photoshop. I feel I'm missing out by only using Canon DPP. I think I'm intimidated by PS since I've never really used it. I only want to do basic editing, but I get the feeling PS offers a whole lot more "basics" than DPP. And yes I always shoot in RAW.

You can download a full-featured free trial of Photoshop, or you might consider PS Elements since you are evidently new or inexperienced in post processing -- Elements is less complex, less packed with stuff you will likely never need. Since you shoot Raw and are already using DPP, you likely won't see a big need for the full featured Photoshop, but may benefit a lot with the inexpensive Elements.

The advantage of having a decent image editor with advanced features, such as having the ability to use layers, selections, and layer masks, is that you can do a combination of selective processing (woking on one piece of an image one way and the rest of an image another way or ways), the ability to save edits in multiple layers so you can revisit your work on an image at any time, the ability to save the original image as a background layer so that any work done on it is non-destructive, and more powerful tools such as noise reduction and sharpening that are available to a "normal" image-level editor that are typically only available to Raw editors as external editors or plug-ins where an image has to leave the Raw format in order to be worked on. Also there are specialized areas such as HDR and exposure blending, plus panorama stitching that are only available to image-level processors.

That's just a nutshell of advantages. If I were you, I'd read up on these ideas as I was also learning to get the best out of my Raw processing. The more experience and skill you get in processing your Raw files, the less you will need to resort to an image editor. But, brush up on at least the capabilities of PS Elements so you can be aware of the steps further you can take when it will bring the best out of an image.


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Jul 26, 2009 01:27 |  #3
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Photoshop sucks, all the cool kids on the block use gimp 8)


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Jul 26, 2009 01:28 |  #4

Karl Johnston wrote in post #8344429 (external link)
Photoshop sucks, all the cool kids on the block use gimp 8)

Har de har:)!


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Jul 26, 2009 01:37 |  #5

In addition to Tony's excellent comments, I submit this brief discussion of global vs local editing (external link).


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Jul 26, 2009 01:51 |  #6
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tonylong wrote in post #8344435 (external link)
Har de har:)!

:lol: Yeah that was cynicism


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Jul 26, 2009 01:53 |  #7

Karl Johnston wrote in post #8344503 (external link)
:lol: Yeah that was cynicism

Actually, all serious photo processors use not only the Gimp, but have not less than 5 other free programs that, together, do almost as much as a lot of Photoshop, and are dang proud of it:)!


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Jul 26, 2009 02:36 |  #8

Damo77 wrote in post #8344466 (external link)
In addition to Tony's excellent comments, I submit this brief discussion of global vs local editing (external link).

That didn't turn out to be very brief... I had to read all the articles! Thanks for writing them.


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Jul 26, 2009 06:08 |  #9

I use Elements, from when it first came out and now have Elements 7, it covered everything I needed to do , until I started shooting RAW. Now I use LR and only need Elements when designing posters. I never really got into using DPP


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Jul 26, 2009 06:33 |  #10

Transfer wrote in post #8344320 (external link)
Someone tell me why I need photoshop.

In combination with DPP: Local edits.
On the grand scale of things: Pixel edits.


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Jul 26, 2009 16:06 |  #11

Cool, thanks for the replies. I'll do some more reading so I know what I'm doing before a trial, which sounds like a good idea.


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Jul 26, 2009 16:17 |  #12

You're not a real Photoshopper without it.


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Jul 26, 2009 16:25 |  #13

cdifoto wrote in post #8346976 (external link)
You're not a real Photoshopper without it.

Heh! Sometimes people say the most...profound things...:)


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Jul 26, 2009 17:23 |  #14

Karl Johnston wrote in post #8344429 (external link)
Photoshop sucks, all the cool kids on the block use gimp 8)

I guess I"m cool. Ya, most people DO NOT need photoshop. Most people ARE NOT professional and NEVER will be.

Have fun with your art / hobby try trials, use them all. There are many ways to skin a cat.


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Jul 26, 2009 17:34 |  #15

I switched from PS Elements to CS2 back before Lightroom came out (the Beta was pretty weak, BTW) because CS2 just had some features I needed, especially in terms of higher-vlume photography like batch processing and actions as well as a more seamless approach to editing needs.

Once Lightroom actually started to hit its stride (a couple "minor" releases after v.1), I found myself using Lightroom more and more, Photoshop less and less.

If I was starting over, I'd probably go the Lightroom->Elements route unless I found things I flat out needed in CS. I don't need Photoshop to do batches anymore, and I believe Elements has actions now.

One thing, though, I haven't kept up with Elements since Version 4, and don't know how it handles things like sharpening, which has so many variations in Photoshop. Fortunately, though, I'm set with LR and CS3.


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