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Returned the 5D Mark II, 5D classic used?

 
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Jul 27, 2009 13:56 |  #1

I didn't really like the way the photos came out, and I've always been kind of meh from all the photos I've seen taken with it. To be honest I LOVE the 5D classic thread and I think with this extra money I can get a macro lens and grip with a used 5D. Just something about the colors and feel of the photos that look more true to life compared to the mark II. The high ISO is convenient but I made a practical decision that I wouldn't need to exceed ISO 800 90% of the time. The micro adjustment is very very important to me, but after estimating the cost of calibrating two lenses to an old 5D body it's still cheaper in the end. What are your guys thoughts on the one from Adorama that is rated as V? It says something about haze on the glass that doesn't affect picture quality. Has anyone ever bought that? Does it mean haze on the shutter or the LCD? I'm just wondering if anyone has had experience with it otherwise I'm not too discouraged since it is a reputable dealer. And yes, for what it's worth.... Perry DID make me want to do it! The Aztech too.

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Jul 27, 2009 14:03 |  #2

Chosenbydestiny wrote in post #8351877 (external link)
I didn't really like the way the photos came out, and I've always been kind of meh from all the photos I've seen taken with it. To be honest I LOVE the 5D classic thread and I think with this extra money I can get a macro lens and grip with a used 5D. Just something about the colors and feel of the photos that look more true to life compared to the mark II. The high ISO is convenient but I made a practical decision that I wouldn't need to exceed ISO 800 90% of the time. The micro adjustment is very very important to me, but after estimating the cost of calibrating two lenses to an old 5D body it's still cheaper in the end. What are your guys thoughts on the one from Adorama that is rated as V? It says something about haze on the glass that doesn't affect picture quality. Has anyone ever bought that? Does it mean haze on the shutter or the LCD? I'm just wondering if anyone has had experience with it otherwise I'm not too discouraged since it is a reputable dealer. And yes, for what it's worth.... Perry DID make me want to do it! The Aztech too.

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You'll likely find less expensive ones here without "haze on the glass"!




  
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Jul 27, 2009 14:06 |  #3

Thunderbird33 wrote in post #8351912 (external link)
You'll likely find less expensive ones here without "haze on the glass"!

Well, I like the fact that it's warrantied for a bit and that I can buy everything I need in one shipment =P I just saw one pop up with E- so I guess I'll just get that. O_o


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Jul 27, 2009 14:07 |  #4

"Haze on the glass" likely refers to some clouding in the viewfinder, which, like dust in the viewfinder, is an irritant but does not affect your images.

But, you might be better served finding a refurb. Factory refurbs cost a bit more than used but are very well serviced and have a warranty as well.


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Jul 27, 2009 14:13 |  #5

Wait for adorama to get more refurbished 5D classics in stock. I received mine the other day and I cannot tell it from a new one, functionally or cosmetically.

EDIT: good idea Tony :-)


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Jul 27, 2009 14:27 |  #6

tonylong wrote in post #8351945 (external link)
"Haze on the glass" likely refers to some clouding in the viewfinder, which, like dust in the viewfinder, is an irritant but does not affect your images.

But, you might be better served finding a refurb. Factory refurbs cost a bit more than used but are very well serviced and have a warranty as well.

True, but I need it for a huge gig this weekend and I'm sure I'd be able to resell it for close to 1200. At least on craigslist. The fact that I can get a few more little things that I needed (honl snoots, replacement for diffuser that I lost, etc) aside from it makes it worth the purchase I think.


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Jul 27, 2009 15:00 |  #7
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my 5D is absolutely perfect. I love it. Got it used from Adorama. Only thing was i needed to clean it myself.


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Jul 27, 2009 15:15 |  #8

If a 5dmk2 didn't make you happy, I don't see a 5d making you jump for joy.

As far as "look" to the images, it could simply be a processing difference, either in camera or in post. I can't imaging regular 5d raws being in any way better than a 5dmk2.

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Jul 27, 2009 15:43 |  #9

well, i'm not jumping to assumptions, but from my standpoint, I've seen some people's pictures from the 5D2, and then I've seen SOME people's pictures with the 5D2. A camera isn't going to enhance your images. It's what you do with it, or how you make use of its enhanced features, that will step up your game. I've seen pictures of the 20D side by side with the 1D3 and there's little noticable difference between the two. If you can do without the features that the 5D does not possess over the 5D2, then "your game" will remain the same.


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Jul 27, 2009 16:01 |  #10

Comparing downsized digitally processed images on the web is pretty much a useless endeavor, imo.


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Jul 27, 2009 16:19 |  #11

i wouldn't say useless. web previews are a very good starting point. You can judge a sharp , 500px image on-screen (that hasn't been sharpened) and estimate the sharpness of the print. My former 450D rebel cranked out some incredibly sharp images printed at 12x18". The picture I look at now on my wall (from the 450D) is insanely sharp and the image quality is just as breathtaking (mind you a little NIK software can be attributed to this). Looking at it, it's pretty hard to think having taken it with the 5D2 would have made it look any better than it already is...


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Jul 27, 2009 16:24 |  #12

Assuming the same lens, same subject, different bodies, all working correctly.... I doubt you can see any meaningful difference once you downsize to 800 x 533 or similar.

I have slightly OOF shots that, when donwnsized to those dimensions, look absolutely tack sharp. I've posted more than 1 before in the past ;-)a


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Jul 27, 2009 20:25 |  #13

I wouldn't trade my 5D mkII back in for my old 5D for anything the MKII is so much better.


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Jul 27, 2009 20:37 |  #14

Pearlallica wrote in post #8352432 (external link)
well, i'm not jumping to assumptions, but from my standpoint, I've seen some people's pictures from the 5D2, and then I've seen SOME people's pictures with the 5D2. A camera isn't going to enhance your images. It's what you do with it, or how you make use of its enhanced features, that will step up your game. I've seen pictures of the 20D side by side with the 1D3 and there's little noticable difference between the two. If you can do without the features that the 5D does not possess over the 5D2, then "your game" will remain the same.

So true, point in case....

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Jul 27, 2009 20:49 as a reply to  @ versedmb's post |  #15

Hey Ryan, what sort of 'look' are you really after? When you mentioned not exceeding ISO 800 most of the time, I immediately thought to recommend you the 1Ds, which I use and dearly love. Therefore my opinion is not impartial.

But you could check out the 1Ds MK I thread, and one of my posts there:

https://photography-on-the.net …hp?p=7989238&po​stcount=53

Alternatively there's another post here, which another member kindly commented, actually influenced him to buy the 1Ds over the 5D.

https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=6367670&p​ostcount=7

It's a very personal decision. Frankly I know both are great cameras, even if I've never used the 5D. But again it boils down to what sort of image characteristics you're after. IMHO, both the 1D and 1Ds Classic have a 'look' in their images that is to die for.


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