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dirtyhucker Senior Member  271 posts Joined May 2010 More info | thanks for the tip. 7D, 70-200 f2.8ISII, 70-200 F4 IS, Sigma 30 1.4, Sigma 8-16
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wpmegee Member 65 posts Joined Sep 2008 Location: Huntsville, AL More info | Nov 30, 2011 13:30 | #47 How about the Sigma 8-16? Great IQ, and the widest you can get on crop. 60D, Sigma 8-16, Canon 17-55 2.8 IS, Canon 100mm 2.8L Macro, Canon 100-400L
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RoyWebber Goldmember 3,187 posts Likes: 7 Joined Nov 2006 Location: Corralejo, Fuerteventura....Canary Islands Spain More info | Dec 01, 2011 00:31 | #48 tomphot wrote in post #13471299  As you have both, which do you grab first? The Tok... Canon 7D, 40D,100-400 IS L, EFS 15-85 IS, EFS 10-22-With Faulty USM, 055XPROB+488RC2, 430 & 580 II Flash, Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8-
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]  More info | Dec 01, 2011 01:27 | #49 Take off your photographer hat for a second, and put on the Real Estate broker hat...it is their responsibility to NOT mis-portray the properties they represent. And in using 17mm AOV vs. 24mm AOV on your FF camera, you can mistakenly make a viewer think the spaces are larger than they truly are!   I like the realistic impressions formed with 24mm on FF (15mm on APS-C) when shooting interiors. If you viewed only the first photo, how big of a space would you think that area to be? Ask yourself the same question when viewing only the photo on the right. How would YOU feel if you narrowed down your choices based on photos on the web, take great pains to visit the house (perhaps you are relocating to a new part of the country and have very limited house hunting time available!) and discover how absurdly small the place is because the photographer used a 10mm FL on his APS-C camera?! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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mikekelley "Meow! Bark! Honk! Hiss! Grrr! Tweet!"  7,317 posts Likes: 16 Joined Feb 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA More info | Dec 01, 2011 01:31 | #50 the issue unfortunately is that most realtors want wide wide wide, even if they don't know it's hurting their photos. Los Angeles-Based Architectural, Interior, And Luxury Real Estate Photography
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 01, 2011 01:37 | #51 mikekelley wrote in post #13478120 the issue unfortunately is that most realtors want wide wide wide, even if they don't know it's hurting their photos. That's when it appropriate to remind the agent that their broker, who they work for, has a professional ethics responsibility to not misrepresent the properties that his firm lists! You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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mikekelley "Meow! Bark! Honk! Hiss! Grrr! Tweet!" 7,317 posts Likes: 16 Joined Feb 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA More info | Dec 01, 2011 02:18 | #52 and thats when they find another photographer Los Angeles-Based Architectural, Interior, And Luxury Real Estate Photography
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themadman Cream of the Crop  18,871 posts Likes: 14 Joined Nov 2009 Location: Northern California More info | Dec 01, 2011 02:40 | #53 Wilt wrote in post #13478131 That's when it appropriate to remind the agent that their broker, who they work for, has a professional ethics responsibility to not misrepresent the properties that his firm lists! Pretty much the truth. Look, if the agent wants wide, give em wide. When the buyers come and the room looks smaller, then it is the agent's problem. Will | WilliamLiuPhotography.com
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Dec 01, 2011 07:25 | #54 It's true. Realtors want wide wide wide. So I provide them with wide, usually 11-13mm on my 10-20 on APS-C. It may seem like misrepresentation of the room, however, another important goal here is to show more of the room through a wide lens. I mean if we take into cosideration that the human eye is similar to about a 50mm view, honestly we are not really representing the truth using a 15-17mm (APS-C) view either... SONY A7RIII | SONY A7III | SONY RX10 IV | SONY RX100 | 24-70 2.8 GM | 70-200 2.8 GM | 16-35 F/4 | PZ 18-105 F/4 | FE 85 1.8 | FE 28-70 | SIGMA 35 1.4 ART | SIGMA 150-600 C | ROKINON 14 2.8
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samsen Cream of the Crop  7,468 posts Likes: 239 Joined Apr 2006 Location: LA More info | Dec 01, 2011 10:28 | #55 Wide angle is the magic secret word! Weak retaliates,
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 01, 2011 12:11 | #56 gabebalazs wrote in post #13478814 One more thing. Having seen some of the pictures posted in this thread, I have to emphasize again that it is VERY important to get your verticals straight and vertical. If your verticals are screwed up, it doesn't matter if you shoot the room at 12mm or 17mm (APS-C) it will look bad. My photos on the previous page were shot at around 12mm (19mm equiv.) with correct verticals and I think they show a pretty accurate image of the room (I was there, I know  )OK, corrected verticals   post processing. Far better to use a TSE lens rather than software. It seems that today's real estate agent is more concerned with using ultra wide angle to attract warm bodies to come look and be disappointed. Anyone wanna guess the dimensions of the area depicted, using the 17mm AOV shot? You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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Dec 01, 2011 12:30 | #57 I don't use software for verticals. And unfortunately I don't have a TSE lens either SONY A7RIII | SONY A7III | SONY RX10 IV | SONY RX100 | 24-70 2.8 GM | 70-200 2.8 GM | 16-35 F/4 | PZ 18-105 F/4 | FE 85 1.8 | FE 28-70 | SIGMA 35 1.4 ART | SIGMA 150-600 C | ROKINON 14 2.8
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themadman Cream of the Crop 18,871 posts Likes: 14 Joined Nov 2009 Location: Northern California More info | Dec 01, 2011 12:51 | #58 Wilt wrote in post #13479966 Anyone wanna guess the dimensions of the area depicted, using the 17mm AOV shot? 15x18? Will | WilliamLiuPhotography.com
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Kaigler Senior Member  500 posts Likes: 7 Joined Jul 2009 More info | The purpose of the pictures is not to sell the property but to get the potential buyers into the property to view it. They're not going to buy something if they think it is too small. Its up to the agent to sell it once they're on property. So if you can get them in the door with photos the photographer has done their job. Canon 5D Mk III - Canon 24-105 f/4 L IS, Sigma 85 f/1.4, Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS, Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 VC
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Dec 10, 2011 12:10 | #60 themadman wrote in post #13480153 15x18? I was waiting for other replies. So as to not prevent that from occuring, I'll answer 'too big'. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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