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Aug 11, 2009 03:43 as a reply to  @ post 8437721 |  #16

If I know the shot is gonna kick some a**, RAW, else sRAW1 suffice for that casual outing. For commissioned projects, RAW only.


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Aug 11, 2009 03:50 |  #17

Did my first wedding saturday with 5d2.. shot RAW most of the sime and sRAW church shooting... Worked out great! Even with sRAW there is still so much detail in the shots, and for regular 4x6 pics it's plenty!


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Aug 11, 2009 07:48 |  #18

RAW all the way, usually.

However, when I know that the photos are ONLY for "regular prints" (4x6's) AND I am taking a LOT of them (like a personal "event" that is going to last several hours or more) AND if I am going to use burst mode (even if not a lot) then I use sRAW because the card holds more shots and for regular prints you don't really need higher resolution, even if you are going to crop pretty heavily.


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Aug 11, 2009 08:00 as a reply to  @ ozziepuppy's post |  #19

this issue is my biggest hurdle to overcome about buying this camera. high iso is insane. give you that. but as a wedding photographer, other than high iso,which is huge in itself, why jump from a 5d classic at 12 mps to a 5d2 at 10mps for shooting weddings ??? the classic works great. the selling point im trying to justify in my head, other than the iso, is that i can use my f/4 glass at 3200 all day and get clean images. thats where im at now. who knows in 6 months.....still on the fence on the switch


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Aug 11, 2009 08:05 as a reply to  @ ozziepuppy's post |  #20

Almost always full RAW. I count on about 200 shots per 8gb card and I carry 4 of them with me.

I find that shots that I would switch to sRAW for are shots that I would typically end up deleting anyway. If card space were and issue, I wouldn't hesitate to switch to sRAW, but I rarely run into a situation where I need more than 32gb and I don't have a way to offload images.

Video on the other hand...I really wish there was a 720p option as 1080p is insane.


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Aug 11, 2009 08:25 as a reply to  @ bacchanal's post |  #21

Hard drive space is extremely affordable now, so i always shoot Raw. Plus having 16gig, 8gig, and 4gig cards on hand helps a little too.(although im sure thats nothing compared to most people)


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Aug 11, 2009 10:59 |  #22

Raw and only raw now and forever Amen.


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Aug 11, 2009 11:21 as a reply to  @ Somba1's post |  #23

I was torn about this, but not for too long.

When I look back at old family photos, I realize that I always feel I could have taken then better. I don't want to regret taking a lower res photo a few years down the line. I paid good money for a 21mp camera and I will use all of it.

The croppability is awesome with 21mp and sometimes a different crop than one originally envisaged turns out to be better and the extra pixels save the day.

I had to upgrade to a beefier box for the video processing so the extra MP was no issue whatsoever. Disk space is cheap and so are 32GB cards these days.

Unless you have are out on a shoot and have a limited amount of CF space, why risk throwing away information. After all you paid for the capability!


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Aug 11, 2009 20:31 |  #24

RAW only...storage is cheap these days :D


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Aug 11, 2009 21:36 as a reply to  @ n2_space's post |  #25

sRAW!! I haven't shot in RAW, yet :(:( I'm stuck in fine JPEG.


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Aug 11, 2009 22:17 |  #26

If you're shooting sRAW, I suggest you read this thread.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=730030

I shoot RAW. Why buy a cutting edge camera then cripple the images you're producing with it? If you're going to do that, buy an old original 5D or something. :D




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Aug 11, 2009 22:54 |  #27

Daniel Browning wrote in post #8358280 (external link)
Yes:
  • It increases aliasing artifacts such as moiré.
  • It reduces the effectiveness of lots of post processing tasks (chromatic aberration correction, rotation, distortion correction, etc.)
  • It precludes the use of higher resolution in ways you did not or could not predict were necessary at the time it was taken.
  • There are a lot of superior alternatives to sRAW, unfortunately Canon has not implemented any of them yet.
I created another thread to go into it in more detail: Canon sRAW considered harmful

That is a good post Daniel. I have wondered about about the loss of quality lately when using sRaw. I've noticed that the shadow noise is worse then a down-res full RAW, and I can't quite put my finger on it but it seems a slight lack of sharpness with my sRAWs versus full size. Also, and this is just completely subjective, but it seems like there is less highlight/shadow headroom to recover in an sRaw then in RAW, I just don't know.

Doing some informal tests it seems that I would rather take a Large/Fine JPG and down-res it to 10MP than use the 10MP sRAW for all situations except massively wrong white balance.

Until I have more information (your post and links certainly helped) and more experience I'll be using RAW most of the time and Large/Fine JPG for times when 'storage space' is a concern.


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Aug 11, 2009 23:01 as a reply to  @ post 8437721 |  #28

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Aug 11, 2009 23:16 |  #29

tharmsen wrote in post #8443304 (external link)
If you're shooting sRAW, I suggest you read this thread.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=730030

I shoot RAW. Why buy a cutting edge camera then cripple the images you're producing with it? If you're going to do that, buy an old original 5D or something. :D

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Aug 12, 2009 00:39 |  #30

sRAW is my JPEG


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