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Jul 28, 2009 22:42 |  #1

Here are some of my favorites from a wedding I shot last weekend. A very FUN couple, and the bridal party was a HOOT!

The room in which the ceremony was held was a tiny room with 2 walls covered in Mirrors, which made things interesting...

1 & 2 - Preparation Photos...

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3 - Paula hugs Dad's shoulder with her cheek as he gives her away...
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4 - Paula gazes into Ian's eyes...
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5 - Ian & Paula receive a blessing from the Priest
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6 - Paula is Serenaded
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7 - Ian is adored
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8 - The fun Bridal Party shot
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Jul 29, 2009 04:49 |  #2

Don't take this the wrong way, were you the main photographer?


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Jul 29, 2009 05:52 |  #3

the last shot is fun, looks like they got some great hight! lol....


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Jul 29, 2009 05:54 |  #4

I can't believe the videographer turned up in jeans and a tshirt!!


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Jul 29, 2009 06:13 |  #5

Yeoer wrote in post #8361509 (external link)
Don't take this the wrong way, were you the main photographer?

How could that be taken the wrong way? Yes, I was.

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the last shot is fun, looks like they got some great hight! lol....

Yes. They did. The maid on the left seemed to always be a half beat behind everyone else. We did five of these and this was the best one.

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I can't believe the videographer turned up in jeans and a tshirt!!

Yeah. You and me both. He was a relative, and more than once he stepped right in front of me. But this couple was the most layed back I have ever worked with.


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Jul 29, 2009 06:59 |  #6

Hi SoccerRef. I didn't mean to offend, hopfefully after reading my CC you'll understand why i asked.

1. For me the focus is wrong. I think this shot would work allot better if it was on her eye lashes.

No picture 2.

3. Tough lighting, as your flash hasn't filled the room the WB will always be off for some of the image, an orange gel on your flash would help, as it is I think this shot would work much better if it was in B/W. You could burn the edges quite a bit to add depth... loose the random foot on the right and even clone the chairs and video man out.

4. Nice look, shame about the harsh shadow on the wall but can be fixed in PS.

5. Sorry this was the picture that made me ask if you were the pro or not. IMO not much going for it. Not upright, she chewing gum, bridesmaids head missing making shoulder look odd, the blue leg looks unattached, unhappy lady in the background i could go on, sorry.

6. Not a bad picture but need a little more colour punch, have you got one of her looking at you in roughly the same pose because that'll be the one they will buy.

7. Cute picture, the crop needs to be a bit tighter thow. You have just missed there feet off so by cropping tighter it wont be so obvious.

8. Good picture, just needs a bit of colour boosting.


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Jul 29, 2009 07:09 |  #7

A good example of what i mean about No.1 is in this thread... the first picture.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=730087

Hands are everywhere but the focus is the eye. If the focus was on say the ear-ring it would not have worked at all.


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Jul 29, 2009 07:31 |  #8

Thanks for the comments Yeoer. These are the type of comments I like hearing because I can learn from them.

I wish there were a way to change the focal point after the fact, because I understand what you are saying about #1. In fact, I agree 100%, but as Mom was about to put the necklace on, she made a comment about the necklace, and that's where my focus went.


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Jul 29, 2009 07:40 |  #9

Shallow depth of field is a bit of a double edged sword! we've all lost what could have been exceptional shots because of the thin focus field. The answer... memory cards are cheap so just take more and more so you cover as many options as possible.


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Jul 29, 2009 07:40 |  #10

Yeoer wrote in post #8361509 (external link)
Don't take this the wrong way, were you the main photographer?

At the risk of sounding like I'm piling on, this was exactly my first reaction as well. And like Yeoer, I genuinely don't mean any disrespect, but the quality of these images is below what I would expect from the primary/paid photographer.

1. As expressed, very soft. The focus is on the pendant and her right shoulder. Unfortunately, owing to the small aperature and your closeness to the subject, DOF is so small that her face is already OOF.

3 (as there is no 2). This is just not a good picture. It's of their backs which can work if the setting is real interesting and beatiful but that's not the case here. My eyes are drawn to unattractive and probably equally uncomfortable chairs plus a very busy floor. The image is much too dark and the bridal party, indeed even the groom, is disappearing. Finally, the bride is standing awkwardly; almost looking like she's about to fall over.

4. This image is at least sharp and fairly well exposed (though probably still a little under), but it has significant problems; most notably the harsh shadows and the composure. This shot wouldn've been a little better if you turned to your left so as to truly include the groom in the picture. Also, on this shot like the last, white balance changes across the image.

5. I don't think this is a bad image, though there are extraneous elements that should be removed via PP. That said, WB is good, exposure is good, composition is good.

6 & 7. It's a matter of personal style, but I just don't go for (or shoot) these kinds of shots; they always look a little hokey (IMO). Technically, they're not bad, though 6 does look like it was underexposed and needs some PP attention. My only real problem with them is that you're really not seeing faces. All of the guys are looking away from the camera in 6 and we're looking up the groom's nose in #7. Again, not my style to take these shots anyway, but I have seen them done so that you can see everyone's face.

8. This is your best shot of the series. Once again, a frequently done and contrived shot that I try to avoid as a matter of personal style. Nonethless, it's a little underexposed and needs some PP'ing. The real problem with this image, though, is that it's off center. This would've been a much better image had you and they both taken two steps to your left before leaping.

I would tell you that you should look to further develop your skill at using flash (on and off camera), understanding the elements of composure, and enhanced control of focus when working with small DOF.

You posted them here asking for critique; please accept these comments in the cordial spirit in which they were intended.


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Jul 29, 2009 08:15 |  #11

Peacefield - Critique accepted. This is exactly the type of critique I am looking for. And very helpful. So Thank You.

Frankly, I critiqued my own work before I posted, and one of the things I am trying to learn is to see my own work properly. And I am trying to train myself to see these things in the viewfinder so they can be corrected before I depress the shutter!

So far, I have noted about half the thing that have been pointed out. Which means I need to learn to see the other half. I.E. those things you saw that I didn't. (The bridesmaid's leg in #5 for example.)


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Jul 29, 2009 09:22 |  #12

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one of the things I am trying to learn is to see my own work properly. And I am trying to train myself to see these things in the viewfinder so they can be corrected before I depress the shutter!

A very difficult skill. It's such a busy day and we're working at a thousand things: posing people, thinking about the sun, camera settings, flash, the schedule, getting the vital shots, etc., it's very easy to bang through them without seeing stuff. More than once, I've taken a shot only to discover later that my own camera bag is in the background. Or there were branches behind the bride that I didn't think much of at the time but in the photo it looks like she has antlers. Even making sure I have the camera straight each time. It's hard to think of and see everything. True pros do get it right 100% of the time; there's Photoshop for the rest of us.


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Jul 29, 2009 09:47 |  #13

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A very difficult skill. It's such a busy day and we're working at a thousand things: posing people, thinking about the sun, camera settings, flash, the schedule, getting the vital shots, etc., it's very easy to bang through them without seeing stuff. More than once, I've taken a shot only to discover later that my own camera bag is in the background. Or there were branches behind the bride that I didn't think much of at the time but in the photo it looks like she has antlers. Even making sure I have the camera straight each time. It's hard to think of and see everything. True pros do get it right 100% of the time; there's Photoshop for the rest of us.

It's funny you mention camera bag... I just noticed my white step ladder in one of the photos...


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Jul 29, 2009 09:53 |  #14

Yeap... No.6

lol...


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Jul 29, 2009 10:45 |  #15

I've been shooting weddings for a little bit, and I know that most of the work is in post. When I see these shots, I immediately want to recrop them and add a lot more contrast and color. The images do look soft to me, but not to the point of being unuseable. Just that more work may be needed to sharpen and clear them up. I also crop tight to get a more fresh look when possible. For example, in #4, if the eyes are what you want, really crop to them as much as possible, getting rid of the bridesmaids and shadows. It's all about the emotion and fun.


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