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Aug 01, 2009 23:43 |  #1

So when I edit my photos (I shoot in RAW), I like to adjust them in lightroom first.

Then I right click and go to...
edit in > Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS4

So then it opens the image in photoshop. Then from here I edit the file in photoshop.

Now how in the world do I save it as a JPG? I goto save as...but jpg is not an option.

Help me please?


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Aug 01, 2009 23:45 |  #2

try image > mode > (8 bit)


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Aug 01, 2009 23:52 |  #3

wow thanks. it was at 16 bit before.

Does this change have any negative effects?


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Aug 01, 2009 23:53 |  #4

punkerz123 wrote in post #8383651 (external link)
So when I edit my photos (I shoot in RAW), I like to adjust them in lightroom first.

Then I right click and go to...
edit in > Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS4

So then it opens the image in photoshop. Then from here I edit the file in photoshop.

Now how in the world do I save it as a JPG? I goto save as...but jpg is not an option.

Help me please?

donysy wrote in post #8383654 (external link)
try image > mode > (8 bit)

Like he said. Also, if you plan to use the jpeg on the web, make sure your image is in the sRGB color profile. If you go to Edit/Convert to Profile, the dialog will tell you what color space the image is currently in and you can choose the profile to convert to.

Lightroom works in ProphotoRGB, and you can either have Lightroom convert the photo to sRGB as it sends it to Photoshop, or Photshop can convert it to sRGB as it brings it in, or if you are saving for the Web, you want to manually convert it in the way I mentioned above.


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Aug 02, 2009 08:28 |  #5

punkerz123 wrote in post #8383673 (external link)
Does this change have any negative effects?

Yes. You loose quite a bit of data.
Also; if you are working in ProPhotoRGB, you should never use 8bpc IMO.

tonylong wrote in post #8383677 (external link)
Like he said. Also, if you plan to use the jpeg on the web, make sure your image is in the sRGB color profile. If you go to Edit/Convert to Profile, the dialog will tell you what color space the image is currently in and you can choose the profile to convert to.

It's best to do this before going from 16bpc to 8bpc.
In fact, it's better to not go to 8 bpc, but use "Save for web" instead.
If the file is too big, create a copy, and save that as a (downsized as needed) jpg.

Alternatively (what I would do): Work on the .tif or .psd in Photoshop in 16bpc, then save and close. It will be added to the Raw image in Lightroom. (They will be stacked).
Later it's easy to export the images from Lightroom as a web gallery for instance.

In all cases: If your image is in ProPhotoRGB, converting to sRGB is always done using relative colorimetric rendering: So any colors outside sRGB will be clipped. Watch out for that.

tonylong wrote in post #8383677 (external link)
Lightroom works in ProphotoRGB, and you can either have Lightroom convert the photo to sRGB as it sends it to Photoshop, or Photshop can convert it to sRGB as it brings it in, or if you are saving for the Web, you want to manually convert it in the way I mentioned above.

Save for web from PSCS3 on has the option to "convert to sRGB" for you (tickbox).

I wrote more in depth about save for web on my blog here (external link).


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Aug 02, 2009 09:26 |  #6

Originally Posted by punkerz123
Does this change have any negative effects?

Yes. You loose quite a bit of data.

Originally Posted by tonylong
...make sure your image is in the sRGB color profile

It's best to do this before going from 16bpc to 8bpc.

While technically it's true that the transferal from 16 bit ProPhotoRGB to 8 bit sRGB involves the loss of a lot of data, in practice it is not so tragic as it might sound. The jpg still contains more data than the human eye can perceive, as long as it is not edited further. Sometimes you just have to have a jpg - posting or commercial printing, etc. - and that's o.k. Just don't mess with it any more after the conversion.


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Aug 02, 2009 09:38 |  #7

True. But IMO ProPhotoRGB is not suited for 8bpc...

Also, the biggest "danger" when going from 16bpc ProPhotoRGB to 8bpc sRGB is the clipping.

I fully agree that you will not see a big difference between a print made of a 16bpc tiff and a print made from an 8bpc jpg...


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Aug 03, 2009 19:57 |  #8

René Damkot wrote in post #8384586 (external link)
Yes. You loose quite a bit of data.
Also; if you are working in ProPhotoRGB, you should never use 8bpc IMO.

It's best to do this before going from 16bpc to 8bpc.
In fact, it's better to not go to 8 bpc, but use "Save for web" instead.
If the file is too big, create a copy, and save that as a (downsized as needed) jpg.

Alternatively (what I would do): Work on the .tif or .psd in Photoshop in 16bpc, then save and close. It will be added to the Raw image in Lightroom. (They will be stacked).
Later it's easy to export the images from Lightroom as a web gallery for instance.

In all cases: If your image is in ProPhotoRGB, converting to sRGB is always done using relative colorimetric rendering: So any colors outside sRGB will be clipped. Watch out for that.

Save for web from PSCS3 on has the option to "convert to sRGB" for you (tickbox).

I wrote more in depth about save for web on my blog here (external link).

Thank you for the information. This was very helpful


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