.:The Official WHY VIDEO IS HERE TO STAY thread!!!:.

OK, these video threads seem to come up waaaaay to often lately, so maybe we could get this stickied? If not, maybe we can bump this or link it when people want to cry about "how expensive video makes my DSLR" and how they "don't want it and can't figure out why anyone else on the planet might!"...

OK, let's start with some reasoning. There are features on cameras we all don't use. They have been there for years. Some make sense for a lot of users, they all just don't realize it. Some are useful for a very select few but they're still there. It's your choice to use them or not to use them, but creating different SKUs for similar camera will make them MORE EXPENSIVE. Some examples would be high ISOs, liveview, MLU, rear button AF, etc..

Further, cameras with liveview are very easy to make capture video. Don't beleive me? Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com …gl=CA&hl=en&v=O​lKywUVFJW4
read about what they're doing here:
http://chdk.setepontos​.com/index.php/topic,2​259.0.html

but the moral of that story is any DSLR with liveview could be made to record video by a bunch of programmers THAT DON'T HAVE THE MANUFACTURES RESOURCES!!!

Further, the microphone and speaker probably cost canon $5 to purchase, so that price when passed on to the end user isn't much at all. Add to that canon already has video mode on their P&Ss AND makes very good digital video cameras, it's not exactly new ground for them to develop. ADD TO ALL THAT that this feature will make the camera more newsworth, cool, new, the fun new toy, and it WILL sell cameras for them and it's not going anywhere anytime soon. When canon released reverie it crashed their servers and they ended up using TORRENTS to get it out to all those that wanted to see it! We've already seen Nikon drop it into their D90, then canon followed with the TS1, and now Nikon has added it to it's D300s... I'd say it's a safe bet that all new DSLRs in the next year and beyond will indeed have video functions included. The only valid complaint I can see with this system is for professional photographers at events where video cameras are restricted due to the contracts for that footage (huge money is paid for exclusive rights). Also, the 5Dii is actually LESS EXPENSIVE at it's launch than the 5D was when it was first released. I'm not talking about inflation corrections or anything like that, the original 5D sold for over $3000 when it was released. The 5Dii started at $2700 and was improved in every way.

Video is here, it's here to stay, stop complaining about it!!!!

• video's already been hacked into 40Ds (showing anything with liveview makes it work)
  
• canon already sells P&Ss with video
  
• canon already sells video cameras
  
• the speaker and mic cost canon peanuts when looking at the overal cost of the body
  
• this feature has created a lot of great press for canon and the 5Dii
  
• you don't like it? DON'T USE IT!
  
• the 5Dii's release MSRP is actually LESS than the original 5D's so it didn't ADD to the price there!!!
  

<3 this guy.

Thank you, Ben!!! People need to get over it.

This thread has my blessings.

jacobsen1 wrote in post #8416153
OK, let's start with some reasoning. There are features on cameras we all don't use. They have been there for years. Some make sense for a lot of users, they all just don't realize it.

I think I can agree with you, it's here to stay. But most who are complaining just wish they would have improve the camera part of the camera before they add this.

Me, I want better dynamic range first. Improve one the camera first, then add the bells and whistles.

nontetheredbrain wrote in post #8416220
But most who are complaining just wish they would have improve the camera part of the camera before they add this.

Did you actually read the post? Video was SO easy to add to a DSLR, that random people were able to add it to a 40D. Kind of says a lot, no?

nontetheredbrain wrote in post #8416220
I think I can agree with you, it's here to stay. But most who are complaining just wish they would have improve the camera part of the camera before they add this.

Me, I want better dynamic range first. Improve one the camera first, then add the bells and whistles.

I think part of the point Ben and others are making is that the 'bells and whistles' probably cost next to nothing in terms of time/money to implement - so why not?

But yeah, I hear what you're saying.

nontetheredbrain wrote in post #8416220
I think I can agree with you, it's here to stay. But most who are complaining just wish they would have improve the camera part of the camera before they add this.

to which I ALREADY responded:

jacobsen1 wrote in post #8416153
If you want to complain about your favorite body NOT getting some other feature, go right ahead. But don't think video took anything out of the body or made it more expensive. It was an easy bonus for them to add into the body and it's generated a ton of publicity for canon and nikon.

complain about missing features all you want, just don't think for a second adding video meant they dropped any other feature or didn't develop it.

thanks ben

had to get past it myself. ill be getting a 5dmk11 next. iso capabilities are worth the upgrade alone

Great post . Since a number of mid-range and low end models have the video capability, pretty much the only thing left is for high end models to have it. Let's see how it goes with the announcement of the new 1D's.

timnosenzo wrote in post #8416232


Did you actually read the post? Video was SO easy to add to a DSLR, that random people were able to add it to a 40D. Kind of says a lot, no?

I did say I agree with him, but still want them to focus on the camera part of the camera. For me too many MP and not enough DR. I can just keep hoping.

jacobsen1 wrote in post #8416253
to which I ALREADY responded:

complain about missing features all you want, just don't think for a second adding video meant they dropped any other feature or didn't develop it.

I said I agree, I don't think they dropped or did not develop for it, but I want them to at least start thinking about it. Which they have, so lets see it in a DSLR.

nontetheredbrain wrote in post #8416353
For me too many MP

Do you feel that your 30D has too many pixels?

I agree with your statemnt Jacob. Video is here to stay in DLSRs. It was bound to happen and now it's here. Stop **** you cry babies!!

timnosenzo wrote in post #8416427
Do you feel that your 30D has too many pixels?

No, but that's three yrs ago, a dogs life when talking about electronics. Plus it's just my IR camera. Do I think they have put too many pixels in the last three to four bodies they have released yes. Even their P&S shoots.