From a senior portrait session in the park. C&C welcome.
Tandem Goldmember 1,244 posts Likes: 4 Joined Feb 2006 Location: Colorado Springs More info | Aug 07, 2009 10:54 | #1 From a senior portrait session in the park. C&C welcome. Bill - A model needs careful lighting, professional makeup and expensive clothes to look as beautiful as any ordinary woman does to a man who has fallen in love with her.
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computerguru3190 Senior Member 380 posts Joined Sep 2006 Location: Baton Rouge/New Orleans More info | Aug 07, 2009 15:40 | #2 very nice!
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korrektor Goldmember 4,908 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia More info | Aug 07, 2009 17:37 | #3 ok... where to start... WEBSITE http://mikhaylovphoto.com/
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GeneMan88 Goldmember 1,108 posts Likes: 18 Joined Jan 2005 Location: Portland, OR U.S.A. More info | Aug 07, 2009 18:55 | #4 korrektor wrote in post #8419215 ok... where to start... when you point your flash directly in the models' face - even her natural beauty can't save the day. The light is very harsh and gives off a shadowless look. There's, actually a shadow, right underneath her chin - it looks like a black beard. Not a very desirable effect as you might have guessed. The composition is bland, the model's facial expression is... not the best one either. This is not a good photo for a professional. If your signature spells out all the gear you have - then I have only one suggestion. Sell the majority of it and invest into some lighting gear... by the way... your list is around $35,000 Please forgive my honesty. You know... When you read this reply, what kind of vibe do you get? 1D MKI + 1Ds MKI + 5D MKI Kit - EF17-35 f2.8L | EF24-70 f2.8 L | EF 100-400L IS | EF15 f2.8 | EF35L | EF50 f1.4 | EF85 f1.8 | EF135L | 580EX II | 580EX I | 270EX II | G12
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korrektor Goldmember 4,908 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia More info | Aug 07, 2009 19:10 | #5 here we go again... You stated that you agree with my critique of the photo. What things can we possibly argue about? The photo is not good for someone who takes money for his/her photo services. Agreed? Agreed. WEBSITE http://mikhaylovphoto.com/
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SPORTshot Senior Member 440 posts Joined Oct 2008 Location: Ohio More info | Aug 07, 2009 22:25 | #6 GeneMan88 wrote in post #8419540 You know... When you read this reply, what kind of vibe do you get? I feel this korrector person is being an A$$... granted, korrektor seems to be an accomplished portrait photog, BUT this doesn't mean he should come off like that. I may agree with his critique of the photo, but REALLY that is all he should have replied with... what does the $$$ value of the o.p.'s gear have anything to do with it? For all I know, Tandem may be an accomplished wildlife photog... NOT a portrait photog. Just because we all have great Canon cameras, this doesn't automatically make us all good at portraiture, or macro, or sports photography... I have a love of photography, and I have much to learn, but I do know this... I don't see how helpful korrektor's reply could be when it has that "snob-like" feel to it. I now step off the soap box.
James
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Hey, I'm a big boy, I can take it. I appreciate the brutal honesty. I'm not going to learn much if all I listen to is her mother gushing over how much she loves the photos, now, am I? Bill - A model needs careful lighting, professional makeup and expensive clothes to look as beautiful as any ordinary woman does to a man who has fallen in love with her.
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korrektor Goldmember 4,908 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia More info | Aug 07, 2009 23:07 | #8 I am glad no personals feeling were hurt and let's leave it at that. Tandem wrote in post #8420584 Hey, I'm a big boy, I can take it. I appreciate the brutal honesty. I'm not going to learn much if all I listen to is her mother gushing over how much she loves the photos, now, am I? You are correct in your assumption that I am a novice at lighting for portraits. I need to know what to look for and your critique was spot on. Thanks! WEBSITE http://mikhaylovphoto.com/
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PaulLi Goldmember 1,144 posts Joined Apr 2009 Location: Long Island More info | Aug 08, 2009 11:32 | #9 Also, maybe center the subject. Flickr
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korrektor Goldmember 4,908 posts Joined Mar 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia More info | Aug 08, 2009 13:07 | #10 Actually it is not a good idea. Try not to center your subjects WEBSITE http://mikhaylovphoto.com/
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GeneMan88 Goldmember 1,108 posts Likes: 18 Joined Jan 2005 Location: Portland, OR U.S.A. More info | Aug 09, 2009 01:49 | #11 korrektor wrote in post #8422932 Actually it is not a good idea. Try not to center your subjects I whole heartedly agree... not a good idea, a majority of the time. 1D MKI + 1Ds MKI + 5D MKI Kit - EF17-35 f2.8L | EF24-70 f2.8 L | EF 100-400L IS | EF15 f2.8 | EF35L | EF50 f1.4 | EF85 f1.8 | EF135L | 580EX II | 580EX I | 270EX II | G12
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MichaelBottoms Cream of the Crop 6,297 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Whitby Ontario... just outside of Toronto More info | Aug 09, 2009 09:40 | #12 I went to your website, and looked at this girls session shots. Only at her shots--nothing else on the website. I'm not sure you chose the best image to highlight here, but some general comments on the shots as a whole. Some were nicely posed and cropped--perhaps many... but while the lighting was better in some, overall, I found the lighting flat. So that would appear to be an area where you need to improve--local camera courses, tips here... and lots of experimentation and practice will help. All the best, and I have to admit to being in awe of your selection of equipment. Thanks for sharing! Former Pentax & 20D owner... now the pleased owner of the new 50D, 580EX, Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, Canon EF-S 60mm Macro, Canon EFS 17-85mm F/4-5.6 IS USM, Canon EF 70-300mm F/4-5.6 IS USM, Kenko 1.4X Teleplus Pro 300, Sekonic L-508 Zoom Master Meter, Manfrotto and slik tripods, trekpod and other assorted accessories...
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710Studio Goldmember More info | Aug 09, 2009 09:50 | #13 I happen to agree with Korrektor. I think the shot has a lot of potential, as does the subject (the subject is drop dead gorgeous!). But, the lighting is not as flattering as it could be. A little OCF would go a long way with a shot like this one. Paint not only with light, but with shadow, as well. =--My Gear List --=
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PaulLi Goldmember 1,144 posts Joined Apr 2009 Location: Long Island More info | Aug 09, 2009 09:57 | #14 Why not center the subject? If Leonardo da Vinci did it, so should we. http://www.lairweb.org.nz/leonardo/monalisa.jpg Flickr
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710Studio Goldmember More info | Aug 09, 2009 10:00 | #15 Paul Li wrote in post #8426651 Why not center the subject? If Leonardo da Vinci did it, so should we. http://www.lairweb.org.nz/leonardo/monalisa.jpg Ever hear of the "rule of thirds"? Off-centering your subject creates interest and perspective and gives your subject the appearance that they have somewhere to go. Centering your subject gives the appearance that they are trapped in a box. =--My Gear List --=
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