It's 2020 (God help us) and you go to the camera store for a new camera

20droger wrote in post #8455729
It comes as an accessory to the personal flying car that we've been promised for so long.

Can you image the road/air rage if people were able to fly cars? It's crazy enough when the tires are touching the ground. And there are far too many people allowed on the roads right now to be safe. Yikes!

Jon.

Maybe photographers will be replaced by robots with built in cameras that take amazing pictures.

There will still be you guys, the pioneers of photography, but the evil genius who built these robots will program robot assasins to hunt you guys down. anybody caught with a camera must be terminated!!!

By that time you'll be considered a pioneer too! DOH. Look out!

Jon.

I think I could get the following for $200 at a yard sale in 2020 --

1DMKIII
4 L lenses
backpack
accessories

:p

S.Horton wrote in post #8463810
I think I could get the following for $200 at a yard sale in 2020 --

1DMKIII
4 L lenses
backpack
accessories

:p

The way the economy is going you will get it next month.

Cromfel wrote in post #8433788
2020 whole world will be covered by Google's omnidirectional land cameras combined with satellite based cameras that render fully 3 dimensional view on every location on earth. I just go and open google maps, then go to any location I want at any time of day I like and just take a screenshot of the scenery.

Hell, I can even travel back in time on googles 24 hours long stream buffer what allows me to select the time of the day I want for the shot. Some people even use picture analysis softwares to automaticly get them screenshots of certain types of scenery and have automatic program to place their watermarks and upload the pictures to flickr.

...Then I wake up, drink glass of water and realize it was a bad dream.

Hmmm, forget about that word "land"...

http://www.google.com …nders/great-barrier-reef/

holy unearthed zombie thread Batman!

Zombie thread or not, now Iv'e gone and read it. One comment on ISO over IS. I will still want IS and preferably much better than we now have. I want to be able to take shots hand held at 1/60 at 600mm on a 48Mpix 1.6x crop sensor. But then I WANT certain subject motion blur, without camera shake. Oh and it needs to be lens based so I can still see through the viewfinder. Because aI still want an optical one of those too!

Alan

Film.

in 2020, the new canon 5d will be mirrorless tech with ISO 12800 looking like ISO 100 of today

mikekelley wrote in post #8423807
In 2020 we jsut shoot video and pick a frame we like, at 20mp or so.

Yeah, this. In fact, it's hard to believe we aren't already able to do this.

Do you think the technology is already there, to be able to offer this at a very reasonable price, but the manufacturers are holding back on us?

Tom Reichner wrote in post #15053919
Yeah, this. In fact, it's hard to believe we aren't already able to do this.

Do you think the technology is already there, to be able to offer this at a very reasonable price, but the manufacturers are holding back on us?

The MPEG spec committee and the JPEG spec committee need to collaborate on a single, common spec. Or, they need to cooperate to make a suitable convertor. The real problem is the relatively low res of MPEG...scarcely a 2k pixel image! You'd get real garbage JPG resulting from the movie frame right now.

Wilt wrote in post #15053942
The MPEG spec committee and the JPEG spec committee need to collaborate on a single, common spec. Or, they need to cooperate to make a suitable convertor. The real problem is the relatively low res of MPEG...scarcely a 2k pixel image! You'd get real garbage JPG resulting from the movie frame right now.

I would think that if still cameras could be given incredible buffer capacity (many hundreds of times what we have now), and could shoot RAW files continuously at 30+ frames per second at full resolution, then we would basically have video frame rates with full-resolution RAW "edit-ability".

There would not have to be MPEG, JPEG, or any other pegs. Just hundreds of thousands of RAW files, the very best of which could be selected out of the sequence and edited meticulously.

Maybe this view is over-simplified because I am not a technologically-minded person in the least.

It seems, at least to me, that all we are lacking is the technology to record and process this huge amount of data in an incredibly short time period. But if you look at where we were 15 years ago, and where we are now, it doesn't really seem impossible to expect this kind of technology sometime within the next 10 or 20 years, does it?

NOTE: Of course, the current mirror / shutter system in todays DSLRs would have to be abandoned, and replaced with a mirrorless system. Geez - how would we still be able to have a fully optical viewfinder with that?

Tom Reichner wrote in post #15054006
It seems, at least to me, that all we are lacking is the technology to record and process this huge amount of data in an incredibly short time period.

Yes, we need faster image processors, faster I/O processors to move the data, and HUGEmongous amounts data storage to cope with 20 MPixel frames being captured at 24 fps or faster!

The Canon Pellix was a solution to a camera that could shoot without bothering with a moving reflex mirror. Unfortunately the Pellix lost light from the film, being diverted up to the eyepiece...and the eyepiece was dimmer because of what when straight to the focal plance. And now AF sensor also diverts light from the eyepiece, so they have to figure a better way to do that than the contrast sensing Live View AF, which is inherently more variable than phase sensing normal AF.

I hope these things come about someday, maybe not by 2020 but in my lifetime
1) bodies will be little more than a means to hold onto a lens, mount all the controls, a viewfinder that is probably a live view screen, possible fiber optic fed with maybe a hotshoe and a wireless transmitter sending all the data to a unit that does the actual recording up to a few hundred feet away and of course a power supply.
2) Lenses will become cameras in themselves with their own sensor and shutter but no controls until mounted on a body. No more sensor cleaning because it is sealed inside and no more figuring actual focal length for crop and full frame and all of that, the sensors will be round because the image a lens produces is round. Crop what you want later.
3) NO IS, just fast apertures and crazy good high ISO sensors. IS is dead as soon as the higher ISO's make it so.