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Basic softbox question for outside portraits

 
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Aug 09, 2009 12:24 |  #1

If I'm outside in open shade with an off camera flash for the key and a reflector or another flash for the fill, is there any advantage in using a small softbox like an apollo 28 for the key instead of an umbrella. I understand the better light control you get with softboxes indoors but does it make a difference outside?

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Aug 09, 2009 21:53 |  #2

Frugal wrote in post #8427280 (external link)
If I'm outside in open shade with an off camera flash for the key and a reflector or another flash for the fill, is there any advantage in using a small softbox like an apollo 28 for the key instead of an umbrella. I understand the better light control you get with softboxes indoors but does it make a difference outside?

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The same principal applies regarding spill whether you are inside or outside. If you want to control the spill and the direction of light the softbox is a more precise tool. I use the apollo 28 and love the quality of light from it for outdoor fill. Its a lot easier to handle than an umbrella in windy conditions.




  
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Aug 09, 2009 22:32 |  #3

I find the softbox more efficient outdoors vs a shoot thru @ the same flash setting.


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Aug 10, 2009 09:54 |  #4

No spill advantage from a softbox outdoors, vs a similarly sized (square inches) umbrella, as spill has no ceilings and walls to bounce uncontrollably to the subject!

Softbox has the advantage that you don't get the ugly umbrella ribs visible in the catchlights seen in the subject's eyes.


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Aug 10, 2009 10:20 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #5

Thanks for the responses - heading off to order one from B&H.


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Aug 10, 2009 10:20 |  #6

I looked up the Apollo 28" at B&H. If I do not have "any" lighting equipment, then what setup do I need ? There are many options for just the softbox, umbrella, stands, etc. What would be the best packaged combination to purchase ?


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pizelli wrote in post #8432731 (external link)
I looked up the Apollo 28" at B&H. If I do not have "any" lighting equipment, then what setup do I need ? There are many options for just the softbox, umbrella, stands, etc. What would be the best packaged combination to purchase ?

Depends on your shooting style.


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Aug 10, 2009 10:57 |  #8

Well ... to be honest, I don't have a shooting style yet. Where would I find some literature or guidance on what type of style to pick out. I basically like well lighted, clear and color saturated pictures.


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I mean, what you shoot basically. Portraits, Full body, half body, groups, product photography, cars. Like this.


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Aug 10, 2009 11:06 |  #10

The westcott 28 is a great softbox. Get a stand, pretty much any stand you can get your hands on cheap, and a swivel bracket. The key decision next is a triggering method. If you have canon flash I suggest the 24ft cord from flashzebra.com. It allows you to work in ettl as you learn ocf, then you can decide which sort of radio trigger to get and how important ettl is to you.




  
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Aug 10, 2009 11:56 |  #11

Wilt wrote in post #8432579 (external link)
No spill advantage from a softbox outdoors, vs a similarly sized (square inches) umbrella, as spill has no ceilings and walls to bounce uncontrollably to the subject!

Softbox has the advantage that you don't get the ugly umbrella ribs visible in the catchlights seen in the subject's eyes.

Agree completely. Another advantage of a softbox is the greater efficiency because it's contained. The spill from the umbrella translates to a loss of light and waste of power or batteries as the case may be.


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