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Thread started 10 Aug 2009 (Monday) 13:03
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Trade 50D for 5D? (sorry, I know)

 
JRisinger
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Aug 10, 2009 13:03 |  #1

(Posted on FM.com as well, cross-posting for more feedback)

Am I crazy to consider trading my 50D for a 5D? I know, I know, this comes up ALL the time :) , but please hear me out. I love all the features of the 50D over the 20D I upgraded from, and the 5D is functionally not all that much ahead of the 20D, so I would be taking a step backward in features (i.e. bells and whistles). But every time I process files from the 50D, I just can't shake the feeling that there's something not quite right. They're...crunchy, and really digital, for lack of better terminology. And the shadow noise starting at ISO 400...ugh. My struggle when I replaced the 20D was between these 2 bodies, and now I think I may have made the wrong choice.
I'm looking for a straight-up swap monetarily (or as close as possible), since I've basically maxed out my gear budget for the next year or 2. I know what many of the responses will be (get the 5D!) when considering bodies alone, but what about factoring in lenses? The thing is, if I were to swap bodies, my lens lineup would have to be readjusted. So, to keep similar focal length coverage (and financial equity), my setup would change from:

50D
Tokina 12-24
Canon 28/1.8
85/1.8
70-200/4

to this:

5D
17-40L
85/1.8
70-200/4

The f/4 speed on the wide angle would remain the same, but I would lose the fast 1.8 in the standard range. Is the 5D high-iso good enough to compensate for the f/4 over the 1.8 on the 28mm (although it's actually more like 2.2 or 2.5, my 28mm isn't all that sharp wide open). And would it be worth it to add another $80 for the 50/1.8 II for fast aperture and subject isolation?
Oh, and since I know it's bound to come up, I like to shoot landscape, portrait, still life, candids, etc. No sports, wildlife, or birding for me (yet).
A million thanks,
Jason


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Aug 10, 2009 13:10 |  #2

i did this, sort of..

i traded my 50D + 28-135mm + 70-300mm + cash into best buy for only the 5D2 body brand new...i still owned the 17-40L and 50/1.4 to go with the 5D2...

best decision ive made in my photography ventures by far..very happy with the decision :)


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Aug 12, 2009 20:38 as a reply to  @ MaliCali's post |  #3

MaliCali, How much did BB offer you for credit on your 50D? I'm looking at a similar upgrade and I'd be curious on the dollars for this vs. selling the 50D on eBay.


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Aug 12, 2009 20:48 |  #4

You know, the bottom line is if you see a deficiency in IQ from your camera, and your shooting technique, you should do something about it...whether it's technique or technology make the move to improve, others' equipment or their photography technique be damned...if you believe that buying new gear is the answer, and you can afford it then do it...while you wait for the budget to allow for the upgrade you might consider alternative technique as another answer to the nagging doubts you have about the results your getting now.
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Aug 12, 2009 21:38 |  #5

I would never give up my 5D for a 50D.

The 5D lineup you propose is excellent.

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Aug 12, 2009 22:01 |  #6
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I could of bought your gear for what Best Buy paid you for it. Sorry but that was not a very wise decision. Oh well, glad you're happy in the end.

MaliCali wrote in post #8433737 (external link)
i did this, sort of..

i traded my 50D + 28-135mm + 70-300mm + cash into best buy for only the 5D2 body brand new...i still owned the 17-40L and 50/1.4 to go with the 5D2...

best decision ive made in my photography ventures by far..very happy with the decision :)


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Aug 12, 2009 22:02 |  #7
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And no, nobody is trading you their 5D for their 50D! Just sell it, and eat the cost!


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Aug 12, 2009 22:05 |  #8

I don't think I'd even trade my 40D for a 50D, now that I think about it.

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Aug 12, 2009 22:10 |  #9

Come on guys, leave the guy alone. He asked opinions, no need to bash him. You dont know, someone might trade, even if you wont then good for you.


In all honesty though, sell the 50d and buy a 5d.


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Aug 12, 2009 22:16 |  #10

Synenergy52 wrote in post #8449936 (external link)
I could of bought your gear for what Best Buy paid you for it. Sorry but that was not a very wise decision. Oh well, glad you're happy in the end.

what?

they gave the exact cost of what the camera and two lenses were brand new =]

it was a straight up return/refund..the manager is a friend of mine..so unless you were going to pay me more than what it retails for lol..


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Aug 12, 2009 22:19 |  #11
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my personal ranking:

5DII>1DSIII>5D>T1I>40D>50D>30D>XSi>XS>20D>XTI>XT (don't know enough about the Dxx series, 10D, 1Dxxx) to place them... hah.


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Aug 12, 2009 22:21 |  #12
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So let me get this straight, the store manager paid you full retail (MSRP) for used camera equipment? somethings not right there... you sure? :cool:

MaliCali wrote in post #8450014 (external link)
what?

they gave the exact cost of what the camera and two lenses were brand new =]

it was a straight up return/refund..the manager is a friend of mine..so unless you were going to pay me more than what it retails for lol..


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Aug 12, 2009 22:47 |  #13

Synenergy52 wrote in post #8450034 (external link)
So let me get this straight, the store manager paid you full retail (MSRP) for used camera equipment? somethings not right there... you sure? :cool:

no..

he didnt pay me, i returned the camera and the two lenses that i had bought as a package, they dont cut the cost down when you do this, it was a full refund, not only is the manager a good friend, but i spend A LOT of money at that particular best buy...so they help me out with a lot of things like this..

not only did he allow me to do that trade in, but i got the 5D2 was a bit harder to find than it is now, and he had one of his employees drive about an hour and a half to another store to go pick the camera up and bring it back for me... ;)


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Aug 12, 2009 22:57 |  #14

Serious question : Synenergy52....Why do you feel the T1i is a better camera than a 50D or the 40D? I will be upgrading soon from my Xsi and don't see why you ranked it as the best of the best in Canon Crops. If it really is that would leave me A LOT more $$ for some "L" glass. :)


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Aug 13, 2009 00:28 |  #15

I jumped from a 40D to a 5D and have not regretted it. You can really see the difference. My only gripe is the sluggish AF. But I don't do sports or any type of action shots, so I am okay with it.


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