ok. i think the overall message here is, we're all adults. if someone posts one damn pic with some sky in it, don't let it ruin your day. it's just a thread on the internet. let's use the rules as guidelines but lets not beat each other over the head everytime someone strays from the course. let's post what we think are urban fragments. so maybe one shot has a snip of sky in it, but we think overall, its what this thread is about. that's the bottom line. post pictures or urban fragments. we're adults, we can handle this.