philwillmedia Cream of the Crop 5,253 posts Gallery: 2 photos Likes: 25 Joined Nov 2008 Location: "...just south of the 23rd Paralell..." More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:09 | #91 RAW is better Regards, Phil
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BigK Goldmember 2,021 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: West Central Indiana More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:32 | #92 cwood wrote in post #9118484  But if you can't take a sports illustrated worthy picture in Medium JPG then I don't think your chances are improving by shooting RAW... since you brought it up. Actually, they improve dramatically because SI requires you to shoot RAW + M1. Name: Kevin
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slimenta Senior Member  369 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:39 | #93 Big K wrote in post #9118648 Actually, they improve dramatically because SI requires you to shoot RAW + M1. They require this because their shooters are just a bunch of hacks who need it because they make too many exposure setting errors. In spite of Phil's rant above the logic around saying that jpeg is as good as RAW escapes me. In many settings the differences are small, in low light they are large. Does that mean that one cannot get excellent shots with jpeg, of course not. www.stevenlimentaniphotography.com
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Dan-o Goldmember  3,539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Apr 2006 Location: So. Cal. More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:44 | #94 When jpg is the appropriate format for the workflow but you're still shooting RAW because you're making too many exposure mistakes then its time to improve your skills. There is the whole sentence cwood. I hardly see how it changes things. Danny.
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cwood Senior Member 370 posts Likes: 9 Joined Nov 2008 More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:45 | #95 slimenta wrote in post #9118682 In spite of Phil's rant above the logic around saying that jpeg is as good as RAW escapes me. In many settings the differences are small, in low light they are large. Does that mean that one cannot get excellent shots with jpeg, of course not. I never said RAW was as good as jpg... I said JPG was appropriate to certain situations. Each photographer must determine what is appropriate. Just because YOU don't shoot in situations where JPG is appropriate doesn't mean those situations do not exist. 1DxII, 5D3, 6D
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Dan-o Goldmember 3,539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Apr 2006 Location: So. Cal. More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:50 | #96 Why this always turn into an argument is the insinuation that RAW shooters are just a bunch of hacks who only shoot RAW because they lack skills. Danny.
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cwood Senior Member 370 posts Likes: 9 Joined Nov 2008 More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:50 | #97 Dan-o wrote in post #9118702 There is the whole sentence cwood. I hardly see how it changed things. When jpg is the appropriate format for the workflow... .... but you're still shooting RAW because you're making too many exposure mistakes..... then its time to improve your skills 1DxII, 5D3, 6D
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cwood Senior Member 370 posts Likes: 9 Joined Nov 2008 More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:51 | #98 Dan-o wrote in post #9118741 Why this always turn into an argument is the insinuation that RAW shooters are just a bunch of hacks who only shoot RAW because they lack skills. nobody said that. 1DxII, 5D3, 6D
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BigK Goldmember 2,021 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: West Central Indiana More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:52 | #99 slimenta wrote in post #9118682 Does that mean that one cannot get excellent shots with jpeg, of course not. I agree. I was just being a smart ass. Too many Jack and Cokes while sorting through basketball shots from tonight. Name: Kevin
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Dan-o Goldmember 3,539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Apr 2006 Location: So. Cal. More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:56 | #100 It is midnight K. Go to bed. I have 3 hours on you, the evening is still young. Danny.
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BigK Goldmember 2,021 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: West Central Indiana More info | Dec 01, 2009 22:57 | #101 Dan-o wrote in post #9118781 It is midnight K. Go to bed. I have 3 hours on you, the evening is still young.  Just one more round bartender. Name: Kevin
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texaskev Goldmember  More info | Dec 01, 2009 23:00 | #102 This has been a fun thread to follow. My .02 is that I shoot everything in raw. I love the extra latitude of adjustment. But yes it really does burn HD space. Canon 1DX II, 1DX, 11-24 F4 L, 100 F2.8 L, 16-35 F2.8 L II, 17-40 F4 L, 24-70 F2.8 L II, 24-105 F4 L II, 70-200 F2.8 L II
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Dan-o Goldmember 3,539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Apr 2006 Location: So. Cal. More info | Dec 01, 2009 23:20 | #103 nobody said that. Not directly but all the little pokes are there. Photo volume at a sports event is a perfectly good reason to shoot jpg as long as you know how to expose your image properly. if you shoot it right the first time why bother with the extra step? You do that. I'll stick to taking them right the first time. +1 I do agree with you cwood that you should use the work flow that works best for the situation. For me that is RAW. I have a bunch of presets that work well with RAWs but will not work on JPGs. Saying we RAW shooters use it for an exposure crutch is like saying you shoot JPG because you need the FPS and buffer because you have no timing. A pretty idiotic statement, don't you agree. We can agree to disagree I guess. K can you e-mail me a Jack and Coke. Danny.
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BigK Goldmember 2,021 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2007 Location: West Central Indiana More info | Dec 01, 2009 23:29 | #104 Here you go partner.
Name: Kevin
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Dan-o Goldmember 3,539 posts Likes: 2 Joined Apr 2006 Location: So. Cal. More info | Dec 01, 2009 23:31 | #105
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