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Aug 20, 2009 12:31 |  #1

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Aug 20, 2009 15:21 |  #2

I love the shutter animation in the first video. I need to show that to some of my friends!


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Aug 20, 2009 18:44 |  #3

Thanks Robert. So, the Mini is just like a Transmitter ONLY and the Flex is Transceivers.. but for only about $20-$30 difference why not just get all Flex?
This video has made me understood that now.. When time comes for me to buy some, it will only be all Flex.

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Aug 20, 2009 18:48 |  #4

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Thanks Robert. So, the Mini is just like a Transmitter ONLY and the Flex is Transceivers.. but for only about $20-$30 difference why not just get all Flex?
This video has made me understood that now.. When time comes for me to buy some, it will only be all Flex.

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I think that the trend these days is to get the size of the on-camera transmitter down as much as possible and for that reason the Mini is the way to go. The Flex is a bit larger and for some it may be too large. Other than that there doesn't seem to be any reason to get a Mini over the Flex for the camera but in all honesty, when the Nikon versions come out and they are tested, I'll probably buy a set and will opt for the Mini for the camera.


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Aug 20, 2009 18:51 |  #5

I didn't know that the Flex is that much bigger than the Mini at least when I saw them at B&H. But then I agree with you if the size is that significantly difference.
I have not followed this new PW that much; will they work with third-party flash like Sigma for Canon or Nikon, or they will only just work with the real Canon and Nikon flashes, respectively of course? Thanks.

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I think that the trend these days is to get the size of the on-camera transmitter down as much as possible and for that reason the Mini is the way to go. The Flex is a bit larger and for some it may be too large. Other than that there doesn't seem to be any reason to get a Mini over the Flex for the camera but in all honesty, when the Nikon versions come out and they are tested, I'll probably buy a set and will opt for the Mini for the camera.




  
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Aug 20, 2009 18:56 |  #6

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I didn't know that the Flex is that much bigger than the Mini at least when I saw them at B&H. But then I agree with you if the size is that significantly difference. Thanks.

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I don't know the exact difference in dimensions but it's significant to make the Flex feel a bit too large. People seem to like a tiny form factor like a Skyport transmitter on-camera.

I've never mounted them on camera but I've seen enough pictures to know that the Flex is a bit larger and might not agree with everyone.

In principal I agree with you and think that a more universally flexible setup would just be comprised of Flex's.


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Aug 20, 2009 18:56 |  #7

SOLD.... thanks for the videos i was sold half way through the first video lol.


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Aug 20, 2009 18:59 |  #8

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SOLD.... thanks for the videos i was sold half way through the first video lol.

Which flash are you using Matt? Just be forewarned about the RFI problems others have encountered when using the 580EXII. I'm not sure if the problem is there with the original 580EX. Some people are holding on to, or buying the older 540 or 550EX so they don't have to worry about the RF problem.

I know there are some fixes and workarounds but make sure you understand the issue before jumping in head first.

I shoot Nikon and we are due to see the Mini and Flex for Nikon in the Fall. I'm looking forward to it and hope they have all the bugs worked out by their release.


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Aug 20, 2009 19:01 as a reply to  @ Matt-l's post |  #9

I have not followed this new PW that much; will they work with third-party flash like Sigma for Canon or Nikon, or they will only just work with the real Canon and Nikon flashes, respectively of course? Thanks.

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Aug 20, 2009 19:03 as a reply to  @ mufutau55's post |  #10

They will work like any Pocket Wizard would work with the flash in Manual. The only way to take advantage of the remote radio TTL functionality id to use them with a Canon flash in ETTL mode. In the Fall the Nikon version will be out and they will allow for remote radio ITTL with Nikon Speedlight's.

Other brands can only be used in Manual, no TTL.


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Aug 20, 2009 19:06 |  #11

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Which flash are you using Matt? Just be forewarned about the RFI problems others have encountered when using the 580EXII. I'm not sure if the problem is there with the original 580EX. Some people are holding on to, or buying the older 540 or 550EX so they don't have to worry about the RF problem.

I know there are some fixes and workarounds but make sure you understand the issue before jumping in head first.

I shoot Nikon and we are due to see the Mini and Flex for Nikon in the Fall. I'm looking forward to it and hope they have all the bugs worked out by their release.

Im using a Metz 48 and soon a 430ex II aswell, I havn't tried these with the metz but i will tomorrow and see how everything turns out.


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Aug 20, 2009 19:09 |  #12

Thanks for your usual useful informations. I guess the ETTL transmissions on none Canon or Nikon flash are different.

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They will work like any Pocket Wizard would work with the flash in Manual. The only way to take advantage of the remote radio TTL functionality id to use them with a Canon flash in ETTL mode. In the Fall the Nikon version will be out and they will allow for remote radio ITTL with Nikon Speedlight's.

Other brands can only be used in Manual, no TTL.




  
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Aug 20, 2009 19:12 |  #13

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Im using a Metz 48 and soon a 430ex II aswell, I havn't tried these with the metz but i will tomorrow and see how everything turns out.

I believe you'll only be able to use the Metz in manual and the PW will work as a normal trigger, no different from any other previous PW.

You will be able to make use of the radio TTL with the 430.


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Aug 20, 2009 19:21 |  #14

My feeling is that in volume the mini is about 1/3 the size of the flex. and in weight it's even more significant than that. Factor in the Flex's need for antenna extension . . . the mini wins outright for on-camera use.

I started out with 2 flexes thinking "why bother with the mini" but man . . . that didn't last long :)

Even if you're triggering standard pocketwizards and will never have any use for wireless ETTL the size of the mini justifies it's use for everyday triggering.

With the mini on-camera you can leave your left eye open while looking through the viewfinder and see the subject. That's key for my work.




  
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Aug 20, 2009 19:24 |  #15

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My feeling is that in volume the mini is about 1/3 the size of the flex. and in weight it's even more significant than that. Factor in the Flex's need for antenna extension . . . the mini wins outright for on-camera use.

I started out with 2 flexes thinking "why bother with the mini" but man . . . that didn't last long :)

Even if you're triggering standard pocketwizards and will never have any use for wireless ETTL the size of the mini justifies it's use for everyday triggering.

With the mini on-camera you can leave your left eye open while looking through the viewfinder and see the subject. That's key for my work.

Thanks for that. I wasn't sure about the size differential.

You better be able to keep your left eye open. I'm a left-eyed photographer. :D


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