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Domke J-812 Photo/Laptop Satchel Review (WITH PICTURES)

 
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Aug 21, 2009 22:01 |  #1

First things first - I became a fan of Domke about a year ago. I have had just about every other brand/type of bag, but the Domkes always seem to get used more than the others when I start packing a bag. They hold so much more than they look, and still don't "look" like a camera bag. Despite a simple, non-padded strap, they are very easy to carry for hours on end. Housekeeping - I increased the brightness on some of these photos because the black nylon and other bag details can get clipped with the room light environment where I took the pictures. If you'd like some other shots, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

The picture below will give you an idea on the relative size of the Domke J-812.
From left to right: Domke F-4AF (Olive), Domke F-7AF (Sand), Domke J-812 (Black Ballistic Nylon), Tenba Large Messenger (Black). The 812 and Tenba are the only ones with a true laptop slot.

IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402524_vFN6g-XL-1.jpg

The next couple of pictures show a side-by-side comparison of J-812 (LEFT) and Tenba Large Messenger (RIGHT). Keep in mind, the J-812 is full of stuff (which you'll see further down).
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402588_MatxJ-XL-1.jpg
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402662_MkMc2-XL-1.jpg

The next shots are of the J-812 only. Front flap has two zippered pockets near the top of the flap (zippers/pockets are on the other side of the gray fabric). They are more spacious than I thought they would be. Below the flap you'll see two deep and roomy pockets. Very similar to the outside pockets on other Domke bags. I could easily get a 580EXII AND 430EX into ONE of the pockets. Right now there's a 430EX, remote timer, iphone charger, ear buds, audio/video cable for the 5DMII in one of the pockets. In the other, a bunch of backup batteries for the 5DMII and 40D as well as a hard CF case.
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402728_bwmnR-XL-1.jpg

Below is a shot from the top of the bag. Notice the size of the zippers for the main compartment and laptop compartment (towards the back). The zippers are excellent quality, very smooth and easy to open with one hand. You'd be surprised how a cheap zipper can ruin a bag. These zippers are top of the line.
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626403035_nPUP9-XL-1.jpg

As you unzip the main compartment, you immediately see a 4 compartment insert centered (can be removed or moved). A non-gripped body fits perfectly each side of the insert.
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402970_sJoRe-XL-1.jpg

So what was in this bag?
From left to right:
580EX II, Kindle 2, Sony Vaio 13.6" Notebook, 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 135 2L, 17-40 4L, 70-200 4L IS, 40D with 100 2.8 Macro hooded and mounted. On other side of the insert, the camera that took these shots fits perfectly (5DMII with 24-70 2.8L hooded and mounted).
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626402893_xts9g-XL-1.jpg

As you can imagine it's heavy. I don't have a scale but I'd guess somewhere in the 30-40 pound range. Regardless, it's an easy bag to carry with the signature Domke strap and new double handles. For relative size, I'm 6'2" and weigh 200 pounds.
IMAGE: http://www.mtjrphotos.com/photos/626403205_tYRbb-XL-1.jpg

Overall thoughts on the bag - I love it. Before I got this on Tuesday, I used the Tenba to and from my marketing job. It was my briefcase that fit a mounted Canon DSLR, a second lens, a 580EX II, my work files and computer. The Tenba was always bulging and very tight. (See my review on that bag here: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=694314) The Tenba also has A LOT of un-usable pockets due to their tightness. The Domke bag is well-thought-out and uses space very wisely and efficiently. It even has a sleeve on the back that you can put over the handle of a rolling suitcase/carry on bag. That will definitely alleviate some of the weight when traveling through airports.

What is it lacking? Just one thing in my opinion - a pocket for file folders/documents. Sure, you could put them with the laptop, but anything with staples will more than likely scratch your laptop, so I try to avoid putting those next to each other.

Feel free to ask any questions and I'll do what I can to answer them. Thanks.

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Aug 21, 2009 23:35 |  #2

Thanks for posting the review and pics!

Question for you -
With the main camera compartment accessible via a zipper instead of a large flap, do you find it difficult to work out of the F-812 while it is hanging off your shoulder? I own quite a few Domke bags (F-2, F-3XB, F-7, F-802 x2, J-1, J-803) and find them very easy to use while on the move. The zipper design of the F-812 concerns me as it would seem to provide too narrow of an opening for easy access.




  
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Aug 22, 2009 00:00 |  #3

GizmoGarage wrote in post #8502543 (external link)
Thanks for posting the review and pics!

Question for you -
With the main camera compartment accessible via a zipper instead of a large flap, do you find it difficult to work out of the F-812 while it is hanging off your shoulder? I own quite a few Domke bags (F-2, F-3XB, F-7, F-802 x2, J-1, J-803) and find them very easy to use while on the move. The zipper design of the F-812 concerns me as it would seem to provide too narrow of an opening for easy access.

The zipper is as smooth as a flap in my opinion. I was concerned about that too, but it will work fine. The designed the zipper to go down the sides a little so once unzipped, it kind of naturally opens.


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Aug 22, 2009 00:53 |  #4

mhthomps wrote in post #8502637 (external link)
The zipper is as smooth as a flap in my opinion. I was concerned about that too, but it will work fine. The designed the zipper to go down the sides a little so once unzipped, it kind of naturally opens.

Thanks for the fast reply. It looks like I might be adding another Domke bag to my collection in the near future.




  
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Aug 23, 2009 08:32 |  #5

GizmoGarage wrote in post #8502749 (external link)
Thanks for the fast reply. It looks like I might be adding another Domke bag to my collection in the near future.

What are you currently using for something like this?


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Aug 23, 2009 15:54 |  #6

mhthomps wrote in post #8508267 (external link)
What are you currently using for something like this?

Right now, I'm using a Domke F-7 in conjunction with a Tenba messenger insert. I just slide the laptop in behind the Tenba insert. I want to be able to carry at least one more lens, so I'd like to have a bag with just a bit more capacity without adding too much bulk.

I bought (and then sold) both a Domke F-804 and a Lowepro Stealth Reporter 650, but I didn't like the way those bags balanced. I've also tried adding a pouch or two to the F-7's shoulder strap, but I didn't like that solution either. The Domke F-812, and the upcoming Mountainsmith Endeavor, are the bags I have in my sights at the moment.




  
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Aug 23, 2009 17:59 |  #7

GizmoGarage wrote in post #8510034 (external link)
Right now, I'm using a Domke F-7 in conjunction with a Tenba messenger insert. I just slide the laptop in behind the Tenba insert. I want to be able to carry at least one more lens, so I'd like to have a bag with just a bit more capacity without adding too much bulk.

I bought (and then sold) both a Domke F-804 and a Lowepro Stealth Reporter 650, but I didn't like the way those bags balanced. I've also tried adding a pouch or two to the F-7's shoulder strap, but I didn't like that solution either. The Domke F-812, and the upcoming Mountainsmith Endeavor, are the bags I have in my sights at the moment.


Killer idea on using the Tenba insert with the F-7! I'm going to try that when I need something smaller than the 812.


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Aug 23, 2009 20:52 |  #8

mhthomps wrote in post #8510561 (external link)
Killer idea on using the Tenba insert with the F-7! I'm going to try that when I need something smaller than the 812.

I love that Tenba insert. I use it inside a Domke F-802 for carrying two bodies with lenses. I also use it inside a North Face Surge backpack for an airplane carry-on bag.

I actually have 3 similar Tenba inserts: the original gray messenger insert, the re-designed gray messenger insert, and the black wedding case insert. The re-designed messenger insert (with the taller dividers) is my favorite.




  
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Aug 24, 2009 07:04 |  #9

Thank you for the review. I was looking for something just like this and was considering a think tank, but I love Domke bags. I'll definitely look into it as I just got a Toshiba 13.3 inch and love it.


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Dec 01, 2009 12:21 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #10

The only thing I don't like in J-812 is a zipper placed in the center of the bag.
It looks like not very comfy to pull the camera out of the bag.
The same thing I can say about my Billinghem 445




  
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Apr 23, 2010 02:43 |  #11

This bag looks perfect for the airport.


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Apr 23, 2010 14:13 |  #12

Staszek wrote in post #10049539 (external link)
This bag looks perfect for the airport.

I use it everyday and travel with it too. It's perfect.


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Apr 23, 2010 16:13 |  #13

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I use it everyday and travel with it too. It's perfect.

I know this thread is a year old, so... how is the canvas holding up to daily use?


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Apr 23, 2010 16:24 |  #14

Staszek wrote in post #10053007 (external link)
I know this thread is a year old, so... how is the canvas holding up to daily use?

Looks as good as new. No fraying or balling up at all.


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Apr 23, 2010 16:25 |  #15

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Looks as good as new. No fraying or balling up at all.

Good to hear.


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