Canon Loyalty program?!?!?!?!?!

Holy god! Canon says they will take my broken 20D off my hands and give me a brand new 50D for $629, that's $500 off the new price!! MY 20D started Err 99'ing the other day (at a wedding no less), and now, the shutter wont open, but the mirror flies back and forth non stop once a battery is placed in. I'm really, really, REALLY considering Canon's offer. Is the 50D worth it? I thought I might have heard some negative rumors a while back in regards to the noise levels of the 50D.

For 629 I'd buy twelve of the things.

I'd grab it if they offered something similar for my 350D

Im wondering is this an incentive to shift stocks of the 50D before the 60D/7D is announced.

how did you get this?

Heck, I have a 30D and would consider the offer. I have a 50D and it is farrrr superior to my old 30D

johnj2803 wrote in post #8514117
how did you get this?

I called the service center because of my broken 20D, and they told me about it. Where I am now, I think it's my best move. Why spend money repairing a 20D? I love it and all, but I can always grab one from ebay for a few hundred, and this would help me a lot now. All things considered, I can only find one thing I do not like about the 50D and thats the fact that the DLA has dropped from f/10 or so with the 20D to f/7.1 with the 50D, meaning anything narrower than f/7.1 will be degraded at 100% resolution. Not the end of the world, just something that goes hand in hand with higher resolution sensors. And cutting back to sRAW1 solves most of that, I read.

I have never tested a 50D, but the 40D is way better than the 20D so unless Canon has done something really stupid, the 50D should be a very nice update from the 20D. I would instantly buy a 50D today if someone offered me a new one for that price.

take the offer.

Take the deal!

Got my 50D about a month back (coming from a 400D) and not regretted it at all.

If there is additional noise at high ISO, then it must be slight.

As for diffraction, Do you look at your pics at 100% or do you print them? Unless you always view at 100% then i reckon any softening due to diffraction is moot. It just means using slightly higher sharpening that you might be used to.

The bonus of the 50D is the cropability of the images - you can crop the image hugely and it is still sufficiently detailed to print at A3!

gregpphoto wrote in post #8514140
All things considered, I can only find one thing I do not like about the 50D and thats the fact that the DLA has dropped from f/10 or so with the 20D to f/7.1 with the 50D, meaning anything narrower than f/7.1 will be degraded at 100% resolution.

Note that the degradation at 100% resolution may indicate hat the 50D gives worse images. But this has to be correlated with the change in resolution. The 50D has a higher resolution, so even with diffraction affecting two neighbour pixels more, the diffraction effect when compared to 0.1% of the horisontal width is not worse.

The situation is that the 50D gives more pixels and fills more memory card, but the IQ will not improve corresponding to the increased pixel count. But when cropping the same percentage of the image and printing it, the difference in the DLA will not make the 50D produce pictures with less IQ. It is only for crops of a fixed number of pixels instead of a fixed percentage of the original image that the 50D will suffer from this degradation.

The othe problem - noise - is something that you have to consider on a pixel-by-pixel basis, but improvements in sensor technology and sw processing makes the 50D manage quite well despite the smaller sensels.

Sounds like a great deal no matter how you look at it. What were they going to charge you to repair the 20D?

Ron

Norcal29 wrote in post #8514252
Sounds like a great deal no matter how you look at it. What were they going to charge you to repair the 20D?

Ron

I'm going to find out later today. If it's more than $100, I'm going for the 50D.

So all these 60D/7D rumors, Im choosing to ignore them and say "yes, Canon is pushing to get rid of their 50D stock, and screw it, let them push it onto me" lol.

I bought my 20D a month before the 30D came out, and I watched that fly by, as well as the 40D and I almost made it all the way to the 60D??!? Great stuff, 20D. You will be missed.

pwm2 wrote in post #8514248
Note that the degradation at 100% resolution may indicate hat the 50D gives worse images. But this has to be correlated with the change in resolution. The 50D has a higher resolution, so even with diffraction affecting two neighbour pixels more, the diffraction effect when compared to 0.1% of the horisontal width is not worse.

The situation is that the 50D gives more pixels and fills more memory card, but the IQ will not improve corresponding to the increased pixel count. But when cropping the same percentage of the image and printing it, the difference in the DLA will not make the 50D produce pictures with less IQ. It is only for crops of a fixed number of pixels instead of a fixed percentage of the original image that the 50D will suffer from this degradation.

The othe problem - noise - is something that you have to consider on a pixel-by-pixel basis, but improvements in sensor technology and sw processing makes the 50D manage quite well despite the smaller sensels.

+1 Spot on

pwm2 wrote in post #8514248
Note that the degradation at 100% resolution may indicate hat the 50D gives worse images. But this has to be correlated with the change in resolution. The 50D has a higher resolution, so even with diffraction affecting two neighbour pixels more, the diffraction effect when compared to 0.1% of the horisontal width is not worse.

The situation is that the 50D gives more pixels and fills more memory card, but the IQ will not improve corresponding to the increased pixel count. But when cropping the same percentage of the image and printing it, the difference in the DLA will not make the 50D produce pictures with less IQ. It is only for crops of a fixed number of pixels instead of a fixed percentage of the original image that the 50D will suffer from this degradation.

The othe problem - noise - is something that you have to consider on a pixel-by-pixel basis, but improvements in sensor technology and sw processing makes the 50D manage quite well despite the smaller sensels.

Yea I don't understand any of that Crops of fixed pixels vs percentage of original? Can you translate that into english?