The End of Summer Random Discussion for TPBM (29)

Hey All!

JWright wrote in post #8619435
I think I just found what has to be the most extreme pixel peeping example so far...

https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=8619272&p​ostcount=1

Does this mean we can we just close the "Measurbator Of The Year" contest now?

Off to home! Laters folks!

puddlepirate44 wrote in post #8619099
There would be so much less work in post if I would take the time to get the shot right "pre-shutter".

• Am I using the lowest possible ISO and still have a desirable shutter speed? or do I just set it at some high ISO and forget it. By using a lower ISO whenever possible, I'll get higher quality shots in the end.
  
• Am I "looking for the ugly" in the shot? This is something that Lisa is teaching me. Is there a light pole in the background that looks like it's sprouting out of the top of someone's head? Is there some brightly colored object in the back that will become a large, colorful "bokeh ball"? Telephone wires?
  
• Don't fall into the trap of "Oh, I'll just fix that in Photoshop." That's a slippery slope. Especially when you're there, the client's there, the setting is there.... just recompose or remove the object in question and reshoot. Get it right "pre-shutter" and you won't have to worry about it in post.
  
• Get in the habit of taking 3-5 shots of every pose/composition if possible. This will reduce the chance of mistakes, e.g. closed eyes, hair in face, goofy grins, etc. I'll get into why it's necessary for so many shots later, but let it suffice to say that we're not using film, but digital. The extra shots don't cost extra and you're able to purchase some peace of mind with them.
  
• Do NOT settle for anything. Too often I settle for my less than stellar lens because I'm too lazy to swap out for the better one. Or I settle with the composition that's before me because I'm too lazy to stand up on a footstool or a bench to get the better angle. Or I settle for handhold even though I know that the shutter speed is waaaaay too low just because I won't get the tripod. What's the point, really. I mean, if you're doing a second rate shot, you're not going to be happy. But with a little extra effort, you could fire off a couple of real keepers.

More later.

Spot-on!

Someone once said that if you have to say "I'll fix it in post" the shot is ruined. I try hard to get everything right in camera. I don't have the patience or time to do more than a little camera raw tweaking and running my default actions, which add the "bug" at the bottom-right corner, and size it for web or print.

kumatron wrote in post #8619425
I'm sorry, but I only discuss re organizing my camera worldview on the first Tuesday of every Month. I do have a free hour in November, I'll pencil you in under "Get camera skillz"...

Although that does bring up a good point. I would have a lot more time to eat ice cream if I could take a picture right the first time...

Hi Tif.

puddlepirate44 wrote in post #8619433
off to vet w/ the Hal-ster.

Good luck!

Jon wrote in post #8619458
That does it! I'm tired of your wisdom getting lost in the random chatter. I've started tracking "The Sage of Albany" as part of the master TR index. If anyone happens to have bookmarked any of Dan's earlier discourses on the art of photography, let me know so I can add them.

Excellent! Thank you Jon

puddlepirate44 wrote in post #8619099
OK, here it is. My quarterly serious set of photographic remarks. I'm going to lay it all out on the line here and write out the things that I'm thinking and learning in regards to photography.

More later.

I agree with your comments, and those of most others. I must get it close SOOC because my Photoshop skills are very weak. I too suffer the lack of seeing what can artistically be done to enhance a photo with PP work, and instead opt for tuning it as true to real life as possible.

Becky N wrote in post #8619177
You won't be disappointed. LINK

Very nice stuff.

Pete wrote in post #8619371
Another tip I've learned...

If you can't "see" the photo, then it's probably not worth taking.

Sometimes it's just nice to experience a scene with your eyes and your soul. When it's too big for your camera to capture, your memory will do just fine.

Sometimes it's nice to put your camera away and enjoy something special with your loved one....

Sometimes a photo is worth taking just to record a memory, not just to create a piece of art. Other then that, I completely agree with what you said. I find more often now I put the camera away when with friends and family, and focus my attention on them, not on photography.

Pete wrote in post #8619391
The less I use Photoshop, the happier I am.

This is because:-

a) I'm not that good with photoshop - if my bodging creates something that looks unnatural, I've failed.
b) I'm not good at knowing what I can do with photoshop to enhance an image. People with creative minds like Lisa know how to get the best out of photoshop, and most probably takes this into account when they're looking through the viewfinder before the press the shutter.

Again Pete, I must agree completely with your words.

CrazieCricket wrote in post #8619470
Good grief he just takes the joy right out of photography doesn't he?

How true. It is sad that there are people like that who just love to complain. Definitely a cup half empty kinda person.

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #8619646
Sometimes a photo is worth taking just to record a memory, not just to create a piece of art.

I think that, for most non-photographers, this is the prime reason they take photographs. They don't mind if it's not a wall hanging piece of art, it's a memory aid for them.

I agree with Dan. I wish that I did better in camera so that it wouldn't take me so long to finish a shoot.


and fyi, it's hard to process with a depressed pup. Kona is SO sad that Dan left with Hale and without him.

Pete wrote in post #8619664
I think that, for most non-photographers, this is the prime reason they take photographs. They don't mind if it's not a wall hanging piece of art, it's a memory aid for them.

Very true, but it is even true for me with some shots I take. While I love to go for that 'ultimate' shot, I also value some of the ones of people that I have (like those of grandkids, friends, etc.) that while they have little 'photographic' merit, they do bring back fond memories.

Permagrin wrote in post #8619690
I agree with Dan. I wish that I did better in camera so that it wouldn't take me so long to finish a shoot.


and fyi, it's hard to process with a depressed pup. Kona is SO sad that Dan left with Hale and without him.

You are more of a polisher of diamonds
Sorry K-Dawg is blue. Give him a skritch. Peepers has been so bummed since Jinx died

Lisa, Miss Mini takes a day or two to recover from Andys going to work after a weekend .She lubs him and misses him so much .I"m lousy seconds in comparison .

Miss Mini was ADORABLE yesterday!!

I"m torn right now on weather to get better editing software or not I seldom use it much unless I want to play , which happens alot for me I agree about in camera being important and yet think the most important part is to enjoy ones own creativity.

Skrim17 wrote in post #8619713
Miss Mini was ADORABLE yesterday!!

She was so happy to see you Crissa , she gets all smiley and get the bendy wiggles too and shes kinda tiny for it hahaha ..

short5 wrote in post #8619705
You are more of a polisher of diamonds
Sorry K-Dawg is blue. Give him a skritch. Peepers has been so bummed since Jinx died

Z, calypso was in a funk for almost two months after Murk disappeared. If they are bonded, it takes them a long time to adjust.

and thank you.

I had someone ask me to see a printed portfolio today. I politely declined. I have a web portfolio set up so that people can view masses of my work if they want to. Most people don't print anything anymore anyway. But I still offer both services. I just prefer them to examine/critique my work without me being there

Blurb is going to re-print my book. They asked me to upload B&W's as png's and to lighten the photos that printed too dark but they aren't going to charge me to re-print since there were obvious printer flaws.

thomascanty wrote in post #8619492
You have a weird definition for the word "entertainment"!

LOL!!!

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #8619496
Does this mean we can we just close the "Measurbator Of The Year" contest now?

Really!

Permagrin wrote in post #8619690
and fyi, it's hard to process with a depressed pup. Kona is SO sad that Dan left with Hale and without him.

Awww... Poor Kona.

Off to finish up an article...