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Official: EF-S 15-85 mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

 
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Nov 15, 2009 22:49 |  #511

KenjiS wrote in post #9021855 (external link)
Uhm..They're identical colorcast and etc you know

Kenji - yes the color cast is the same, but Im seeing a difference in color "pop". For example:

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It's subtle, but it's there, like a fresh coat of paint versus one that is not so fresh. Look at the scene with the chairs, pajamas and books. Look how they pop off each other in the L image, there's some nice separation there. Note how they are a bit more "samey" in the 15-85 IS image. the acqua folder and yellow book also look like they have a fresh coat of paint on them in the L image compared to the 15-85 IS/. Again, not a large difference, but something that IMHO adds up when shooting nature landscape. The pajamas are also a richer red in the L image, especailly the right side of them.

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Nov 15, 2009 23:28 |  #512

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Great shots Yamaha451!

I've got to take more B&W shots! Those are done with the Monochrome setting, right?

It can be done in camera, but I prefer to do it in Lightroom, gives you more choice.


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Nov 16, 2009 11:43 |  #513

Mike55 wrote in post #9022186 (external link)
Kenji - yes the color cast is the same, but Im seeing a difference in color "pop". For example:

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It's subtle, but it's there, like a fresh coat of paint versus one that is not so fresh. Look at the scene with the chairs, pajamas and books. Look how they pop off each other in the L image, there's some nice separation there. Note how they are a bit more "samey" in the 15-85 IS image. the acqua folder and yellow book also look like they have a fresh coat of paint on them in the L image compared to the 15-85 IS/. Again, not a large difference, but something that IMHO adds up when shooting nature landscape. The pajamas are also a richer red in the L image, especailly the right side of them.

It is subtle, i do see it, im just unsure if its really the lens or maybe a slight lighting/AWB change or some such...and I'm struggling to see a HUGE difference in the overall picture.. could also be a -slight- exposure difference perhaps?

Not arguing with you..its just VERY close


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Nov 16, 2009 12:19 |  #514

KenjiS wrote in post #9024607 (external link)
Not arguing with you..its just VERY close

Yeah, I'd say it's so close that it would be almost impossible to notice unless it was pointed out. And to me, sharpness is most important. Contrast, color, CA... anything lacking in those areas can be resolved in post. But the lens has to be sharp to make a photo worth working with.


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Nov 16, 2009 13:42 as a reply to  @ Jethro790's post |  #515

Small. Not going to be noticeable if it's on a computer screen or 4x6 prints. Print shops, the paper (Kodak, your neighborhood pharmacy....) can vary more wildly than this. Filters can make a difference too.


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Nov 16, 2009 14:51 |  #516

When you are shooting water, rocks, trees, etc I think even though it's close, this sort of thing does make a difference when looking at the entire picture. Shooting a portrait of a human or a pet? Probably not.


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Nov 16, 2009 18:53 |  #517

Mike55 wrote in post #9025658 (external link)
When you are shooting water, rocks, trees, etc I think even though it's close, this sort of thing does make a difference when looking at the entire picture. Shooting a portrait of a human or a pet? Probably not.

Probably makes no difference

That is such a minor difference that i cant imagine it being visible even in real situations...


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Nov 16, 2009 19:10 |  #518

I think it adds up and gives images more punch - especialy ones with such staggering amounts of detail like nature landscape.


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Nov 16, 2009 22:47 |  #519

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I think it adds up and gives images more punch - especialy ones with such staggering amounts of detail like nature landscape.

I disagree...

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I think the 15-85's colors are superb ;)

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Nov 16, 2009 22:57 |  #520

Kenji - I didn't say there was anything wrong with the 15-85's colors. I just don't think they look as nice as the L in the example posted of the kitchen. I'd still like to see more comparisons though to really draw any final conclusions.


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Nov 16, 2009 23:15 as a reply to  @ Mike55's post |  #521

I'd say the the shots in the kitchen are so close to draw any definitive conclusions. The differences fall within "a narrow margin of error" and can easily be interpreted to suit any personal or style bias. And if you prefer something else (particularly in the area of colour), software can be called upon to help.


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Nov 16, 2009 23:16 |  #522

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Kenji - I didn't say there was anything wrong with the 15-85's colors. I just don't think they look as nice as the L in the example posted of the kitchen. I'd still like to see more comparisons though to really draw any final conclusions.

True, sadly most of my shots with my old 24-105 are on film, and they were on Velvia...

Thats REALLY not fair ;)


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Nov 17, 2009 11:15 |  #523

Lens is $729 at Amazon now.


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Nov 17, 2009 11:18 |  #524

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Nov 17, 2009 12:39 |  #525

man... sure enough. Well, at least I know the old addage still works. The fastest way to drop the price of something is to buy it. If I had *slightly* less morals I'd send my copy back for a refund and buy one from adorama. even after paying for my gas it'd still be cheaper. Oh well. The economy needed me anyway.
Maybe if I actually got out and USED this lens rather than spend all my time looking online for how everyone else is doing with theirs, I might actually learn something.


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