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Oct 08, 2009 22:29 |  #1006

RiaGurl wrote in post #8788079 (external link)
for sure they will. i love the idea of the 18-135, but i'm not sure if you know this, but it is NOT USM.

THAT...is a big dealbreaker, since when did they not put usm in any lenses in the last years. i would have paid extra for usm. big big difference from non usm.

I'm staying away from any more EF-S lenses so either way I wouldn't be going for it but the 18-135 is the most logical lens for new kits IMO.


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Oct 08, 2009 22:33 |  #1007

lowrider wrote in post #8788114 (external link)
The 18-135 is Crop Body only and is not USM. Canon's retail price for the 18-135 is $500.00 and $700.00 for the 28-135. So they're really not in the same class. As has been said, $200.00 extra in a kit, is quite a bargain for a pretty good piece of glass.

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I'm not knocking the lens, it's extremely sharp and produces tremendous 35mm slides on my film body. However, it's not included in 5D kits and it is just isn't wide enough for a crop zoom. I missed a lot of shots before I switched to the 17-85 and 70-300 combo.


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Oct 08, 2009 22:36 |  #1008

lowrider wrote in post #8788114 (external link)
The 18-135 is Crop Body only and is not USM. Canon's retail price for the 18-135 is $500.00 and $700.00 for the 28-135. So they're really not in the same class. As has been said, $200.00 extra in a kit, is quite a bargain for a pretty good piece of glass.

Lou

and street price is $408 on amazon new, so again, $200 is a good deal, and i'm surprised why more people/everyone doesn't get it and sell it at least.


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Oct 08, 2009 22:37 |  #1009

K6AZ wrote in post #8788116 (external link)
I'm staying away from any more EF-S lenses so either way I wouldn't be going for it but the 18-135 is the most logical lens for new kits IMO.

the usm is a more important factor than it being an ef-s lens to me. how could you tolerate non usm?


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Oct 08, 2009 22:39 |  #1010

RiaGurl wrote in post #8788169 (external link)
the usm is a more important factor than it being an ef-s lens to me. how could you tolerate non usm?

I don't know, the only non-USM Canon lens I own is the nifty fifty.


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Oct 08, 2009 22:42 |  #1011

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Thanks for posting, Acid. I called my local store and they had 3 in stock. The person I spoke to had to double check that they were available to sell, but they held one for me. I picked it up after lunch.

Battery is charging now. Finally :) Not as sweet as a deal as the CC BCB deal, but after selling the 28-135 lens and the 10% coupon, it works out to be around the same price had I gone with the Adorama BCB 11% deal. So I'm not going to complain.

(but I'm still not canceling my CC order)

Glad I could help.

I had the same intentions as you, except I'm going to resell the lens in Canada where I can get $550 CDN for it, so even more success! This thing almost pays for itself :P


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Oct 08, 2009 23:02 |  #1012

K6AZ wrote in post #8788188 (external link)
I don't know, the only non-USM Canon lens I own is the nifty fifty.

yes hence cheap. no full time manual focusing, slower to focus, and noisy (for whatever it's worth). so if they are going to do that with a new lens, they may as well lower the price a couple hundred dollars or more.


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Oct 08, 2009 23:05 |  #1013

RiaGurl wrote in post #8788311 (external link)
yes hence cheap. no full time manual focusing, slower to focus, and noisy (for whatever it's worth). so if they are going to do that with a new lens, they may as well lower the price a couple hundred dollars or more.

I bought mine from another member here last year for $80. Despite the limitations I've found it very useful in certain situations.


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Oct 08, 2009 23:08 as a reply to  @ K6AZ's post |  #1014

definitely. i even have it;) for the money it's great. my point is still, it (18-135) should cost a lot lot less, if it's as it is. it is NOT worth the cost, and would have to be a couple hundred less to even consider it for me.


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Oct 08, 2009 23:18 |  #1015

RiaGurl wrote in post #8788341 (external link)
definitely. i even have it;) for the money it's great. my point is still, it (18-135) should cost a lot lot less, if it's as it is. it is NOT worth the cost, and would have to be a couple hundred less to even consider it for me.

I certainly have no use for it. What would be a nice kit would be the 7D with the 17-55 EF-S. I was considering it but since I expect Canon to eventually improve the AF in the 5D I think I will buy the 24-70L. That is when my finances recover after this spending spree.


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Oct 09, 2009 02:01 as a reply to  @ K6AZ's post |  #1016

So got my 7d from best buy today.. Finally got it up and running everything was magical. Went over to a friends to let him take a look and then my magical experience came to a halt and my banding nightmares began... I seriously hope that my camera is just defective for everyones sake. Havent heard anything about what im experiencing before just got home so im gonna check them out on my pc, probbly put them up online somewhere. Anyone having problems with banding? Only been shooting at night/lowlight and at certain setting its just awful. Also shooting in a room with strobes every other flash has a random strip of black and in-between every 2 or 3rd strobe the frame is usually normal.




  
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Oct 09, 2009 02:20 |  #1017

What shutter speed? Black banding using flash is usually due to too high of a shutter speed. I have seen banding even at 1/200.

If you are talking about noise banding, then that's a whole separate conversation.


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Oct 09, 2009 05:44 as a reply to  @ binlerne's post |  #1018

heres the footage i shot it was mostly shot at 1/30 f2.8 and varying iso's http://www.vimeo.com/6​979311 (external link)




  
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Oct 09, 2009 06:30 |  #1019

Danie24932 wrote in post #8789321 (external link)
heres the footage i shot it was mostly shot at 1/30 f2.8 and varying iso's http://www.vimeo.com/6​979311 (external link)

That banding "defect" you're seeing is likely caused by florescent lighting, not a camera defect.




  
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Oct 09, 2009 07:35 |  #1020

Dexter999 wrote in post #8789422 (external link)
That banding "defect" you're seeing is likely caused by florescent lighting, not a camera defect.

At first i thought that might be the case, only problem is the second clip was shot under an hps.
this is what someone else told me:

Do you know about the relationship between frame rate shutter speed and electical AC devices that emit light in a pulsed manner in phase with thier host AC supply ??

if you are in 50HZ land shoot 25p, 50 shutter

if you are in 60HZ land shoot 30p 60 shutter

for a start - then play and read

ps flash photography goes off quicker than a frame is recorded - you will always get flash banding (and on RED, eX1 any CMOS camera)

Hoping your both right!




  
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