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Sep 02, 2009 09:20 |  #1

I am in the market for a printer and I car about quality NOT PRICE. I am shooting weddings, Mitzvahs, glamour, nature, studio portraits,Trash the dress etc.

I am looking for the best quality printer and I need some advice.

I was told that you want to print digitaly not chemicaly. I know a little about printing but not much and I want to provide my customers with the best quality pictures on the best quality paper.

What do you reccomend?


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Sep 02, 2009 09:47 |  #2

Epson 3800


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Sep 02, 2009 21:56 |  #3

It seems like you know little and you're making decisions based on questionable information.

I trust my pro lab over inkjet prints, for robustness.


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Sep 02, 2009 23:53 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #4

Save your money , have a lab do your work. Smugmug is pretty good with printing.




  
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Sep 03, 2009 00:06 |  #5

I have a lab do the printing. My thoughts: Do I want a $60,000 printer to print my photos or a $500 printer?




  
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Sep 03, 2009 00:11 |  #6

Incidentally pro inkjet printers have a wider gamut than a lab's printer. I still use a lab, they have enough colors and their prints have stood the test of time. Inkjet's new, and i'm making albums that I want to last many many decades.


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Sep 03, 2009 09:35 |  #7

I print with Epson R2400. It is an older model. I would look at the newer models. I use their paper and get fantastic results. My prints look better than any I have seen done anywhere. My monitor is calibrated and I proof to the paper. Epson's inks and paper are archive quality and are supposed to last 80-100 years behind glass without fading. I print my own because I am a control freak.




  
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Sep 04, 2009 07:25 as a reply to  @ queenbee288's post |  #8

The lab wins - hands down!
I do around 15-20 weddings a year @ 300 shots each plus a fair bit of commercial work (plus my own travel and family shots) and I use my local photo lab @ 12c a print.

All Fuji Crystal paper - archive quality.

I also own a Canon Pixma iP4200 that I can't fault.
Gives me bee-u-tee-ful prints if I wanna do the odd 1 or 2 for somebody at a moment's notice.


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Sep 04, 2009 18:58 |  #9

FotOz wrote in post #8581996 (external link)
The lab wins - hands down!
I do around 15-20 weddings a year @ 300 shots each plus a fair bit of commercial work (plus my own travel and family shots) and I use my local photo lab @ 12c a print.

All Fuji Crystal paper - archive quality.

I also own a Canon Pixma iP4200 that I can't fault.
Gives me bee-u-tee-ful prints if I wanna do the odd 1 or 2 for somebody at a moment's notice.

Not everyone has that kind of volume to get those prices.




  
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Sep 04, 2009 21:26 |  #10

queenbee288 wrote in post #8585655 (external link)
Not everyone has that kind of volume to get those prices.

mpix or similar places are still very cheap, regardless of volume. Millers, their pro arm, may be a better choice for a pro though.


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Sep 07, 2009 12:28 |  #11

voting for lab prints too.
What benefit do you have making your own prints?
Cons:
Quality printing is expensive on a small scale. (average from a survey I read a while back was $3.50 an 8x10, this probably has changed.)
Getting your color management work flow can be expensive and timely.
Its a lot of work.
Cost of ink and supplies is not cheap.
Pros
You are in total control.
If you need a print today you can do it.
You can provide printing services on site.

In my experience, those who do their own printing either have tons of money and time or tons of work (as in school photographers).


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Sep 22, 2009 13:09 as a reply to  @ Jimconnerphoto's post |  #12

I am thinking of getting a decent printer as well as I sell photos to parents online and instead of getting them made from my lab and having them sent to me and paying $10 for shipping I was thinking of being able to print them and then take them to the next game or send to them like I do. As sometimes I might get one or 2 orders a day for like one 4x6 and it kinda makes more seance to just get those done at home then send out...Do all agree?

Thanks I will be looking for a printer at least to start to get an idea of price and what not.


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Sep 22, 2009 16:44 |  #13

josh237 wrote in post #8689210 (external link)
I am thinking of getting a decent printer as well as I sell photos to parents online and instead of getting them made from my lab and having them sent to me and paying $10 for shipping I was thinking of being able to print them and then take them to the next game or send to them like I do. As sometimes I might get one or 2 orders a day for like one 4x6 and it kinda makes more seance to just get those done at home then send out...Do all agree?

Thanks I will be looking for a printer at least to start to get an idea of price and what not.

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=755432


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Sep 23, 2009 04:48 |  #14

queenbee288 wrote in post #8585655 (external link)
Not everyone has that kind of volume to get those prices.

Hey Char.
Volume has nothing to do with it.
That's the everyday price for anybody - no matter what.
If I want just 1 print done, I get it for 12c.
All self serve. Shove the old thumb drive into the USB port of the terminal in the store, select image etc and hit send. All done within 10 minutes.
My weddings I put on DVD, load the disc onto the terminal, hit the 'go' button, remove the DVD and come back in half an hour. All done.

300 6X4 photos @ 12c ea = $36:00.
My albums cost me $18 each.
Total material cost for a wedding = $54:00.

Time spent at a wedding = around 8 hours.
Time spent in PP = around another 8 hours. (I shoot RAW only).

Total charge for the wedding? $1,200:00.
Profit? $1146:00
What does that make me worth? About $70 an hour.
CHEAP! (Nearly as cheap as my 12c prints!)


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Sep 23, 2009 05:15 |  #15

FotOz wrote in post #8693804 (external link)
300 6X4 photos @ 12c ea = $36:00.
My albums cost me $18 each.
Total material cost for a wedding = $54:00.

All I can say is.... wow. You wouldn't believe how much more I pay for albums, but they're a little nicer than 6x4 stick in albums.


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