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Sep 03, 2009 06:33 |  #1
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Anybody have a resource showing Canon DSLR's sorted by Dynamic Range capability? Number of stops?


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Sep 03, 2009 06:42 |  #2

Based on the cameras you have:

1Ds Mark V 29, 50 stops
5D Mark IV 26, 40 stops
7D Mark II 23, 30 stops


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Sep 03, 2009 06:44 |  #3

maverick678 wrote in post #8574966 (external link)
Based on the cameras you have:

1Ds Mark V 29, 50 stops
5D Mark IV 26, 40 stops
7D Mark II 23, 30 stops

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Sep 03, 2009 09:24 |  #4
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maverick678 wrote in post #8574966 (external link)
Based on the cameras you have:

1Ds Mark V 29, 50 stops
5D Mark IV 26, 40 stops
7D Mark II 23, 30 stops

Thanks, those match my in-house tests.


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Sep 03, 2009 09:31 |  #5

Check the DXOmark website.


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AngryCorgi wrote in post #8575800 (external link)
Check the DXOmark website.

Thanks... Found it: http://www.dxomark.com …rk-Sensor/Camera-rankings (external link)

The highest dynamic range camera I could find was the Nikon D3X at 13.7 stops...

WOW! That's about 2 stops more than a Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III.


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Sep 03, 2009 09:46 |  #7

Canon hasn't built much of a reputation for DR in their cameras. They are about in the middle of the DSLR market in that area. There are worse (Olympus) and there are better (Nikon/Sony). The biggest issue with Canons is how one color channel will clip earlier than the others on over-exposure. This results in clouds and such having a pink cast in some photos.


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AngryCorgi wrote in post #8575908 (external link)
Canon hasn't built much of a reputation for DR in their cameras. They are about in the middle of the DSLR market in that area. There are worse (Olympus) and there are better (Nikon/Sony).

I understand why Olympus is worse; they work with smaller sensors. But I wonder why Canon is?


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Sep 03, 2009 09:55 |  #9

Interesting website..My next purchase will be influenced by dynamic range. Unless the 7D has a very good range, I'll be going with the 5D Mark II..


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Sep 03, 2009 09:58 |  #10

All I can say is that all CMOS sensors are not the same. The Exmor line seem to be the best (Sony built, Nikon leased) and I'm sure the future Exmor-Rs will be even better. Nikon seems to have smoothed out the noise performance of the Exmor sensors better than Sony has, though.


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Sep 03, 2009 10:00 |  #11

I could overexpose by 3EV with my D700 and still bring back color information (usually). The Canons can't do more than 1EV to the right before color information gets tossed because of a channel clipping.

I might migrate to Sony if they ever put the Exmor-R in a DSLR (assuming Nikon doesn't lease that tech too).


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Nikon are really on their game... I noticed that the D3X has a greater dynamic range than even a Hasselblad H3DII 50.

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Sep 03, 2009 11:06 |  #13

AngryCorgi wrote in post #8575979 (external link)
All I can say is that all CMOS sensors are not the same. The Exmor line seem to be the best (Sony built, Nikon leased) and I'm sure the future Exmor-Rs will be even better. Nikon seems to have smoothed out the noise performance of the Exmor sensors better than Sony has, though.

The only thing I'd add to that is that the D3/D700 sensor is, AFAIK, made by Nikon and is only behind the D3x/A900 and the Hasselblads in terms of DR.




  
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Sep 03, 2009 11:10 as a reply to  @ CJinAustin's post |  #14

scorpio_e wrote in post #8575964 (external link)
Interesting website..My next purchase will be influenced by dynamic range. Unless the 7D has a very good range, I'll be going with the 5D Mark II..

enjoy the 5Dii. ;)

I just switch to Nikon for a number of reasons (from a 5Dii to a D700). DR was certainly a factor. And yes, the sony a900 has some wicked DR (same sensor as the D3x) for not too much money, the a850 has the same processing and sensor so should as well for ~$2k. If only sony used nikons mount or nikon had a D700x....


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Sep 03, 2009 12:20 |  #15

foxesamu wrote in post #8576452 (external link)
The only thing I'd add to that is that the D3/D700 sensor is, AFAIK, made by Nikon and is only behind the D3x/A900 and the Hasselblads in terms of DR.

That is correct, the D3/D700 sensor is a Nikon design (though they do not fab it), but I'd be surprised if their relationship with Sony (going back to the D2X) hasn't strongly influenced their designers and directly effected the core sensor design.

Also, I believe the D300 and D300s are a Nikon design, while the D90 and D5000 are Sony sensors (same as used in the newly launched A500). The D90 and D5000 sensor also slightly outpaces the D300/D300s sensor in terms of DR. FWIW, the A700, A500 and D300/D300s sensors are all different, though they all are 12.3MP (net).

So...Exmors are the cat's meow, followed closely by Nikon's CMOS, while Canon is hanging out in the "meh" performance level.


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