Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 07 Sep 2009 (Monday) 07:53
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Which fast lens

 
adrian5127
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,208 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2008
Location: London
     
Sep 07, 2009 07:53 |  #1

I recently went to a wedding and decided my 17-40 was not up to the task for shooting in the church or the reception. it was not long enough and I wanted faster shutter speeds without bumping up the ISO too much. ( obviously it was fine with flash )

The lenses I am looking at are
85 1.8
135L 2.0
or as a wildcard 70-200 2.8 is

85 is meant to be quite fast and is less than half the price of the others

135 is meant to be really sharp and be one of the fasted focussing lenses

70-200 have the versatility but is the most expensive and heaviest.

I am not a pro just a serious amateur and currently have a 40D with a view to upgrading to a 7D so I will have a 1.6 crop.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks


Adrian
SE UK Thread here***Kit***smugmug (external link)
Wedding photography kent (external link)
Wedding photographer kent (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
marco_30D
Senior Member
421 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2007
Location: Philippines
     
Sep 07, 2009 07:58 |  #2

85 1.8 for me, or you can also add up the 50 1.4 to your choices which faster than the choices you have.


5DMK2 l 1DMK2 l EF 17-40 f4L l EF 24-70 f2.8L l EF 50mm f1.8 l EF 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM | EF 100mm f2.8 macro | 580ex | 580ex2 l Benro tripod w/ manfroto head l Lowepro Nature Treker AW l S21S

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
adrian5127
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,208 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2008
Location: London
     
Sep 07, 2009 08:07 |  #3

Thanks, I wanted something a bit longer which is why I discounted the 50 1.4. One lens I did not include is the 24-70 which I have just seen in your signature, how do you rate it?


Adrian
SE UK Thread here***Kit***smugmug (external link)
Wedding photography kent (external link)
Wedding photographer kent (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
S.Horton
worship my useful and insightful comments
Avatar
18,051 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 117
Joined Dec 2006
Location: Royersford, PA
     
Sep 07, 2009 08:10 |  #4

I think that owning a 24-70 is never a mistake.

A prime only has one downside -- You crop with your feet, so you'll need to move around to use it well.


Sam - TF Says Ishmael
http://midnightblue.sm​ugmug.com (external link) 
Want your title changed?Dream On! (external link)

:cool:

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
alessandro2009
Goldmember
Avatar
2,095 posts
Likes: 5
Joined Jun 2009
Location: Italy
     
Sep 07, 2009 08:23 |  #5

Canon 85 f/1.8

But sincerely i don't understand you.

Do you like bright lens but while you aren't willing spend much for the lens, you're willing to spend important amounts for the upgrade of the body. :rolleyes:




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
adrian5127
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,208 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2008
Location: London
     
Sep 07, 2009 09:07 |  #6

I am quite happy to pay for a decent lens eg 135, 70-200 2.8 is & 24-70 but I don't want to pay more than I have to as I want to upgrade my camera as well. The more I spend on the lens the longer it will take me to save up for a new body.

Thanks everyone for your input.


Adrian
SE UK Thread here***Kit***smugmug (external link)
Wedding photography kent (external link)
Wedding photographer kent (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Adrenalin540
Member
41 posts
Joined Feb 2009
     
Sep 07, 2009 09:48 as a reply to  @ adrian5127's post |  #7

Adrian,
How many people do you know that have the same lenses they had years ago, and have been through 2 or 3 bodies? Also, the lens makes the picture...so IMHO the lens is the investment. Bodies come and go... if you get lenses that accommodate your desired photography style and interests...seems like the right way to go to me! It has been said many times that a the equipment doesn't take the photograph...the Photographer does, and the lens enhances the photographers ability to get what they want!


T1i, 10D, SD400, A480 & A2E
35-135.., 18-55mm, 75-300mm, 85mm f1.8
Canon 540EZ FLASH:)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
freebird
Goldmember
1,346 posts
Joined Nov 2006
Location: Iowa
     
Sep 07, 2009 09:55 as a reply to  @ adrian5127's post |  #8

The 85 1.8 focus is really quick. The 135L is fast also.

For the money the 85 is a great piece of kit, and you can always find buyers if you want to get rid of it.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mritchy
Goldmember
Avatar
2,090 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Dallas
     
Sep 07, 2009 10:06 |  #9

Another vot for the 85 1.8. I love that lens and out of all the ones I have I find it glued to my 5D the most during weddings.


Mr. Itchy
14L II, 17L TS-E, 35L, 24-70L II, 45 TS-E, 90 Macro, 50L, 85 1.8, 70-200L II, 200 f/2L

1Dx, 5D III, 6D
Weddings-Real Estate (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
amfoto1
Cream of the Crop
10,251 posts
Likes: 84
Joined Aug 2007
Location: San Jose, California
     
Sep 07, 2009 10:13 |  #10

The lenses you use are more much important than the camera body, with respect to your end results.

I currently have and use all the lenses you are considering and discussing, except for the 17-40. I've used that lens in the past occasionally, but never owned it myself.

Frankly, in my opinion they're all good choices.

In case you haven't used them before... Primes take some getting used to, it's a different style of shooting. It's my prefered way of shooting, in fact... but might not be yours.

Zooms such as the 70-200/2.8 and 24-70/2.8 are top quality and great performers, too. They are at least a full stop slower than the primes, and are larger, heavier and more expensive.... but those two lenses take the place of about 6 or 7 primes. There are situations where there isn't time to change lenses, or where it's unwise to do so due to dust, etc.

"Invest" in your lenses... You'll very likely be using them on future cameras, long after the 40D and even the 7D are "old news" and you've moved on to a "9D" or something else. I started using the Canon system in 2001 and some of the lenses I first bought have seen use at one time or another on about a dozen different film and digital camera models over the years (Off hand I can think of EOS-3s, Elan 7E/EOS 33, 1V HS, 10D, 20D, 30D, 1D MkIIN, 5D, 50D, 5D Mark II... probably forgetting one or two).

You sound to be committed to the 1.6X format, so might consider EF-S lenses, too. I thought I would be going back to full frame a lot sooner than I did, so largely avoided the lenses designed for crop sensor only. Looking back at my decisions, I think was wrong. I now have the Tokina 12-24/4 as my only "crop sensor only" lens.

Among the EF-S, the EF-S 17-55/2.8 is a real standout that would pair well with a 70-200/2.8 IS for example.

I'm glad to see you aren't hung up on the L designation, either. There are plenty of non-L lenses that are very good and serve well. The 85/1.8 is a very good example.

I used the 50/1.4 and 85/1.8 as my primary portrait lenses on crop sensor cameras. After getting back into full frame recently, the first lens I added was the 135/2. It's a great lens on either format, of course, depending upon what you are shooting. If you keep your 17-40, though, I think the gap would be pretty huge. I suspect the 85/1.8 should be your first choice.

Have you considered buying used or refurbished to help the budget go a little farther? I'd think twice about buying a used camera, because of their complexity. I've done so, but only through a dealer who offered a reasonable warranty. Lenses, on the other hand, I can check out pretty quickly and easily myself. There's less to go wrong and it's pretty obvious when something is damaged or out of whack. Several of the lenses in my Canon kit were bought used, both from dealers and from private parties. I'm careful and haven't had any problems, knock on wood.


Alan Myers (external link) "Walk softly and carry a big lens."
5DII, 7DII(x2), 7D(x2) & other cameras. 10-22mm, Tokina 12-24/4, 20/2.8, TS 24/3.5L, 24-70/2.8L, 28/1.8, 28-135 IS (x2), TS 45/2.8, 50/1.4, Tamron 60/2.0, 70-200/4L IS, 70-200/2.8 IS, 85/1.8, Tamron 90/2.5 Macro, 100/2.8 USM, 100-400L II, 135/2L, 180/3.5L, 300/4L IS (x2), 300/2.8L IS, 500/4L IS, EF 1.4X II, EF 2X II. Flashes, studio strobes & various access. - FLICKR (external link) - ZENFOLIO (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MHO
Goldmember
Avatar
1,406 posts
Likes: 22
Joined Jun 2009
Location: Kingston, Surrey
     
Sep 07, 2009 10:59 |  #11

I'd go, 16-35mm f2.8, 24-70mm f2.8 + 70-200mm f2.8 IS

The draw back is going to be overall cost and also the weight of the 70-200mm, however they will give you result!

Using Primes for wedding ceremonies is very difficult as you need to be out of the way and you can move around too much!

for the after party you could very happily use a 28mm/30mm prime for group shots and 50mm for head and shoulders. but then again, if you have a 16-35mm f2.8 it will cover a decent range for you not to need to change lenses constantly!

The only time I have ever used Primes for a wedding was for the Bride and Groom shots where they were posing and I has freedom of movement.

Good luck with your selection dude, Hope you pick the best choice that suits your style :)


MHO Photography on Flickr (external link)
Facebook Page (external link)
5D2 & 1D2n & Some Lenses

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
twoshadows
Liquid Nitrogen
Avatar
6,687 posts
Gallery: 75 photos
Best ofs: 4
Likes: 1853
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Asked to leave Paradise...
     
Sep 07, 2009 12:25 |  #12

85mm f/1.8 AND 28mm f/1.8.


xgender.net (external link) Miss Julia Grey - please refer to me as she/her/Miss
Nikkor 28/2, 35/2.8-PC, 55/1.2 | Vivitar 55/2.8 macro | Voigtländer 50/2.8 | Olympus 75-150/4 | Tamron SP 28-80, SP 60-300, SP 300/5.6 | Pentax SMC Takumar 135/2.5, 200/4 | Canon 24mm TS-E II | Lensbaby Composer Pro II w/Sweet35mm & Edge50mm | Meyer-Optik Gorlitz Oreston 50/1.8 | Canon 5DIIx2, 5D, 20Dx2 | Sigma 12-24 | Canon 28-105 II, 85/1.8 | Yongnuo 50/1.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
adrian5127
THREAD ­ STARTER
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,208 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2008
Location: London
     
Sep 07, 2009 15:48 |  #13

Thank you all for your replies especially Alan for going into such detail.

I know I can borrow a 85 1.8 and 135 2. I will have a go at hiring the others and then try to make up my mind. I have only ever had zooms ( started with sigma 18-200 and now moved onto 17-40 and 100-400 ) so a prime is rather a daunting process.

I agree that I want to go for something to keep as opposed to keep chopping and changing lenses


Adrian
SE UK Thread here***Kit***smugmug (external link)
Wedding photography kent (external link)
Wedding photographer kent (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mrfourcows
Goldmember
Avatar
2,108 posts
Joined May 2006
Location: london
     
Sep 07, 2009 21:07 |  #14

definitely not the zoom.

the situation you don't want to find yourself is is when you've pushed your ISO to your max, and you still can't get fast enough shutter speeds.

the last wedding i shot, i really wanted to work the dinner with the 135L, but i just wasn't getting fast enough shutter speeds. thank goodness i had the 85/1.8 in the bag and it took over so well.


gear | flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EcoRick
Goldmember
1,863 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
     
Sep 07, 2009 21:41 as a reply to  @ post 8602119 |  #15

Shooting in a church is what got me started on fast primes. Even at 2.8, I couldn't get the shots I wanted. My vote would be the 85 1.8, especially on a crop body. I think the 135 might be too long for your first lens. I wouldn't worry about the 7D yet. Once you get a fast prime, you might change you mind and get both the 85 and 135.


Gear: Canon 1Ds MkII, 35L, 85L, 135L, 24-105L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,924 views & 0 likes for this thread
Which fast lens
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is KathKirk33
983 guests, 317 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.