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May 23, 2005 14:55 as a reply to  @ post 564708 |  #31

I agree with schmoelzel.
I have the 100-400L and it's a very versatile lens.
However for birds and airshows you normally need reach.
Therefore if you have the light the 400 5.6 prime would be ideal.
I chose the 300f4 IS because the light tends to be a bit dull on this side of the Atlantic.
I added a 1.4 TC, giving me 420 f5.6 and I think the image is sharper than the 100-400 at 400.

The IS is a great bonus.
In fact it has made the difference between getting a shot and getting a nice Gaussian Blurr effect.


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May 23, 2005 15:34 |  #32

Oh .....I don't know:rolleyes:
The Prime 400mm seems so so sharp and is lighter and cheaper than the zoom.
BUT the zoom had IS and more use in other situations???
Oh I think the zoom will still be the best bet for me.
But...............



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May 23, 2005 15:43 as a reply to  @ Simon Spiers's post |  #33

Yes, the zoom is more versatile, however you said it was for birds and airshows. You will be at the 400 end of the zoom all the time.
I'll make a bet if you buy the zoom you will, at a later date, buy the 300 or 400 prime.
£5...............or is it $5...:)


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May 23, 2005 18:37 as a reply to  @ lomond's post |  #34

Simon,
If it's any help to you, I was in the same boat as you a few months ago. I bought the 100-400L thinking I may very well end up with the 400L 5.6. I was leaning towards the prime, but got such a good deal on the zoom I decided to try it first. I quickly fell in love with the 100-400 and haven't given the prime a second thought. However, you stressed birds and for small birds I just haven't seen the sharpness as consistently with the zoom as with the prime. That's not to say I haven't seen some impressively sharp bird photos with the zoom, just not as consistently--maybe it takes a little PS sharpening. For larger wildlife I think the zoom is fine.




  
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May 23, 2005 19:46 as a reply to  @ post 564819 |  #35

drisley wrote:
Heck, if somebody made a 70-200 lens with a F2.0 aperture

You might need to borrow Six Million Dollar Man's arm to hold the monster. But wait, didn't he have a normal left arm. Darn! ;)




  
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May 23, 2005 21:55 as a reply to  @ Redbird_xo's post |  #36

Redbird_xo wrote:
You might need to borrow Six Million Dollar Man's arm to hold the monster. But wait, didn't he have a normal left arm. Darn! ;)

No doubt. :lol:


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May 24, 2005 04:58 |  #37

Not seen any really impressive Canon prime photographs? Spend a few dollars on "Art of Bird Photography" by Arthur Morris and then tell me you're not considering mortgaging your left kidney to get a 600mm f/4.


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May 24, 2005 12:55 |  #38

Thank you all for this very informative insight .
I will keep you informed.



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May 24, 2005 17:05 as a reply to  @ Simon Spiers's post |  #39

I love this. It could go on for days.


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May 26, 2005 12:19 |  #40

condyk

I was speaking more along the lines of comparable quality lens, not good glass vs crap glass.
A zoom has more mechanics and glass between your film/sensor and the objects so therefore there maybe "some" degradation.




  
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May 26, 2005 12:29 as a reply to  @ kjonnnn's post |  #41

You should try to rent both a 100-400 and a 400 prime and see which one you prefer. The advantage of the the 100-400 is the IS.

I also read that both the new Tamron 200-500 and the Sigma 50-500 were sharper than the 100-400 at 400mm but they do not have IS. The 100-400 has the advantage of a zoom for easy framing and IS. A good deal to me. Hope this helps.


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May 26, 2005 13:19 |  #42

I think i will end up with the zoom in the end. If I become rich in the near future then i will buy a big prime too:p.
Just as long as it has IS though.........



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