muusers Goldmember  1,024 posts Joined Sep 2009 Location: Haarlem, Netherlands More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:28 | #16 rikaro wrote in post #8646811  wow color and contrast look awesome! The minor noise doesn't bother me at all. every EOS cam would make awesome shots with a 400mm f2.8L... Color and contrast mainly depend on the lens, not the body. 50D + 17-55 | s100 | flickr
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toxic Goldmember 3,498 posts Likes: 2 Joined Nov 2008 Location: California More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:29 | #17 Based on this, I want to say Canon has finally surpassed the 5D's resolution in an APS-C camera (the 50D wasn't quite there). We'll have to see how it holds up with noise, but it looks like a winner so far.
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gooble Goldmember  3,149 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2006 Location: Mesa,AZ More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:37 | #18 I'm not impressed by this either. It is mediocre in terms of detail and sharpness. Don't know if that is a result of the lens, camera or processing. Maybe more sharpening would help.
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Scoobs Senior Member  636 posts Joined Jan 2007 Location: Swf, Essex, Uk More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:49 | #19 I think it's a good shot. I'm really looking forward to see how the 7D's AF performs, especially with birds, as this would be my biggest reason to upgrade from my 20D, which is good but does let me down some times with its AF.
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Hogster86 Goldmember  1,968 posts Joined Apr 2007 Location: Godalming, Surrey, UK More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:51 | #20 gooble wrote in post #8646877 I'm not impressed by this either. It is mediocre in terms of detail and sharpness. Don't know if that is a result of the lens, camera or processing. Maybe more sharpening would help. If you're trying to show the quality of the 7D I think you've failed. As a stellar birding picture it is not one. I'm not saying the 7D is not capable because I think it might be. Stephen Eastwood's shots on another thread are impressive; I just don't think this image is a positive example. I can't see an issue myself, considering the image in the first post was cropped from this!
What more can you expect? David  PS. Great job Romy!  David Hogg LRPS
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KCY Unlocked the hidden 117 point AF  7,170 posts Likes: 8 Joined Jun 2009 Location: I wish I knew... More info | Sep 15, 2009 04:53 | #21 *drooooool* can't wait.... KC - The Circle of PoTN - Member of the UCPC
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Sep 15, 2009 05:21 | #22 This was with a pre-production model. It's not worth worrying about minor noise from a camera noone will ever own. Around November there will be plenty of real samples and the picture will be clearer (so to speak). Digital EOS 90D Canon: EF 50mm f/1.8 II, EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro, Life-Size Converter EF Tamron: SP 17-50mm f/2.8 DiII, 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 DiII VC HLD, SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2, SP 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD, 10-24mm f/3.5-4.5 DiII VC HLD Sigma: 30mm f/1.4 DC Art Rokinon: 8mm f/3.5 AS IF UMC
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Sep 15, 2009 05:43 | #23 gooble wrote in post #8646877 I'm not impressed by this either. It is mediocre in terms of detail and sharpness. Don't know if that is a result of the lens, camera or processing. Maybe more sharpening would help. If you're trying to show the quality of the 7D I think you've failed. As a stellar birding picture it is not one. I'm not saying the 7D is not capable because I think it might be. Stephen Eastwood's shots on another thread are impressive; I just don't think this image is a positive example. Thanks for your comments. Care to share a link to your impressive bird photos? Romy Ocon, Philippine Wild Birds
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timbop Goldmember  More info | Sep 15, 2009 05:46 | #24 Excellent shot Romy; it definitely shows how much lattitude for cropping that this camera gives you. I noticed it was in spot AF - can you at least share your experience with that? Is it much slower to lock AF, or does it cause the lens to hunt first? To me this is the selling feature of this camera. For situations just like this having a smaller AF point it ideal, but other times (poor light) having the larger af sensor is better. This technique could actually work out better than having assist points Current: 5DM3, 6D, 8mm fish, 24-105/4IS, 35/2IS, 70-200/2.8IS, 85/1.8, 100-400/IS v1, lensbaby composer with edge 80, 580's and AB800's
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ccp900 Goldmember 1,569 posts Likes: 144 Joined Jun 2006 More info | Sep 15, 2009 05:46 | #25 dude you have to understand romy is one of our kings of bird photography....hes not here to showcase his bird photos....hes trying to show the 7d resolution.... [Sony A7R Mark 3 | Sony A7S | Sony Zeiss 16-35m f/4.0 | Sony FE 85m f1.8 | Sony FE 20m f1.8 G | Samyang 18m f2.8 | Samyang 45m f1.8 | Zeiss Batis 40m f2 | Sony FE 28m f2 | Sony Zeiss 55m f1.8 | Sony FE 28-70m f/3.5-5.6 | Helios 44-2 | Helios 44-3 | Nikon 105m f/2.5 AIS | Contax Zeiss Planar 50m f1.7 | Contax Zeiss Planar 100m f2 | Voigtlander Nokton 40m f/1.4 | Canon 24-105m f/4.0L | Canon 85m f/1.8 | Sigma 30m f/1.4 | Canon 10-22m f/3.5-4.5 | Canon 100m f/2.8 Macro USM | Canon 580 EX Ver 1.0]
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TeamSpeed 01010100 01010011  More info | Sep 15, 2009 05:49 | #26 Hogster86 wrote in post #8646917 I can't see an issue myself, considering the image in the first post was cropped from this! What more can you expect? David PS. Great job Romy! Agreed, the crop is from 1/4th of the overall frame, and that looks quite good. It is great to know that I can pull out 1/4th of the overall shot, and still be able to print a 5x7 or even larger. Here is a combined perspective to get the idea across.  HOSTED PHOTO please log in to view hosted photos in full size. Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery
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Sep 15, 2009 06:13 | #27 liquidstone wrote in post #8647020 Thanks for your comments. Care to share a link to your impressive bird photos? I took a look at the bird photos you posted at POTN and now, I'm enlightened with your impressive and stellar work. Here are a few of my favorite bird photos of yours. Romy Ocon, Philippine Wild Birds
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Sep 15, 2009 06:16 | #28 timbop wrote in post #8647030 Excellent shot Romy; it definitely shows how much lattitude for cropping that this camera gives you. I noticed it was in spot AF - can you at least share your experience with that? Is it much slower to lock AF, or does it cause the lens to hunt first? To me this is the selling feature of this camera. For situations just like this having a smaller AF point it ideal, but other times (poor light) having the larger af sensor is better. This technique could actually work out better than having assist points It seems to me that Spot AF works very fast at static subjects. Romy Ocon, Philippine Wild Birds
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gooble Goldmember 3,149 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2006 Location: Mesa,AZ More info | Sep 15, 2009 06:20 | #29 liquidstone wrote in post #8647020 Thanks for your comments. Care to share a link to your impressive bird photos? I didn't claim to have any. I think I have a good eye for it though. But since you ask you can look here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/neoview
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tekkie Goldmember  2,621 posts Likes: 1 Joined Dec 2006 Location: Clarkston, MI More info | Sep 15, 2009 06:21 | #30 Romy for the AF can you compare it to a 40/50D or a 1D MKII / MKIII ? Canon 1DMKII, 7D, 5DMKII, 1D MKII
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