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Sep 16, 2009 22:24 |  #1

Hi all. Last night i went out to the field next to my house and tried oh lets say about an hour and 10 minutes of 30/sec exposure (without a remote :cry: ) All was fine and dandy and when i was finally finished I went and did a quick review of the pictures the last say 35-40 pictures were not takin correctly because the lens had fogged due to condensation over time. Is there anything i can do to prevent this next time i have a go at it? Thank you.

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Sep 16, 2009 23:05 |  #2

The lens needs to acclimate to the environment it will be used in. I'd recommend a ziplock type bag big enough to hold your camera and lens combination. Before you plan to go out of the house place the camera in the bag with the lens attached. Bring the camera outside and leave it in the bag for about 20 odd minutes. By doing so, you will allow the camera and lens to slowly equalize to the temprature outside the bag. Once this is done just remove the camera and use it. Follow the same procedure when returning the camera indoors to avoid condensation build-up as well.


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Sep 16, 2009 23:07 |  #3

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The lens needs to acclimate to the environment it will be used in. I'd recommend a ziplock type bag big enough to hold your camera and lens combination. Before you plan to go out of the house place the camera in the bag with the lens attached. Bring the camera outside and leave it in the bag for about 20 odd minutes. By doing so, you will allow the camera and lens to slowly equalize to the temprature outside the bag. Once this is done just remove the camera and use it. Follow the same procedure when returning the camera indoors to avoid condensation build-up as well.

awesome... thanks for the tip. Will try this next time i go out.




  
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Sep 16, 2009 23:10 |  #4

You might look throught these Dew Heaters (external link) and see if there is a size you could use for your lens . Otherwise you could use a hair dryer close by when you start seeing dew on the lens . Are you using a lens hood ? They do help in cases like this also .




  
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Sep 17, 2009 00:19 |  #5

Celestron wrote in post #8659098 (external link)
You might look throught these Dew Heaters (external link) and see if there is a size you could use for your lens . Otherwise you could use a hair dryer close by when you start seeing dew on the lens . Are you using a lens hood ? They do help in cases like this also .


Nope, I don't have a hood yet, when the nifty fifty comes into my camera shop im going to grab a hood. I'm really impressed how well the 500d and the kit lens can pick up some of these dimmer stars. I need to read up on infinity focusing. I think i missed my focus on the stars here.

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Sep 17, 2009 00:24 |  #6

Hard to say if you missed focus but i can see black halos around the stars which indicate that if you used USM to sharpen with then the Threshold was set too low . What does the original image before PP look like ??




  
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Sep 17, 2009 01:06 |  #7

heres the original

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Sep 17, 2009 12:59 |  #8

Looks like your very close . What direction of sky is this , the Southern area ?




  
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Sep 17, 2009 13:13 |  #9

I was facing north-northwest




  
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Sep 17, 2009 13:26 |  #10

Lens are made of glass and are densier than air therefore will condense the humidity. Canon suggest using a heat pad to keep the lens warm. I use a Kendrix strap available from Kendrix in Canada. Keeps the fog off my lenses. Both methods work fine.

When bringing the equipement back inside after a long evening it is a good thing to put the lens and camera body in a zibbag. This will prevent the humidiy from inside the warm house to condense on your equipement.


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Sep 17, 2009 13:34 |  #11

VIGER wrote in post #8660425 (external link)
Lens are made of glass and are densier than air therefore will condense the humidity. Canon suggest using a heat pad to keep the lens warm. I use a Kendrix strap available from Kendrix in Canada. Keeps the fog off my lenses. Both methods work fine.

When bringing the equipement back inside after a long evening it is a good thing to put the lens and camera body in a zibbag. This will prevent the humidiy from inside the warm house to condense on your equipement.

thanks so much. I can't believe how much i have learned from this site after just a month. Thanks to everyone.

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Sep 17, 2009 15:12 |  #12

I don't think it looks that bad, personally. Much like my first one, but in better focus, LOL. This place is most definitely a wealth of info, and most of the people here are great for helping out beginners.


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Sep 17, 2009 16:41 |  #13

drevilsmom wrote in post #8661111 (external link)
I don't think it looks that bad, personally. Much like my first one, but in better focus, LOL. This place is most definitely a wealth of info, and most of the people here are great for helping out beginners.

Yeah I need to work on nailing my focus but that will come with time. Practice, practice, practice for me it is... I personally didn't think this photo had a nice "subject" it was just a quick shot. I took several that night in different directions to practice on my focusing and exposures. Thanks for the comment mom!




  
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Sep 17, 2009 23:43 |  #14

Went out tonight to try and get some pictures of deer. (Plus hunting season starts in 3 days and i needed to scout my field.) Needless to say no deer however there's always a nice tint in the sky after sunset.

Damn clouds :(

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