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First wedding - lessons learned

 
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May 25, 2005 16:20 |  #1

NB: This is now a fairly old thread, and most of the advice is pretty outdated as i've learned, but it might still be useful to some people. See links to the wedding FAQ and recommended books in my sig.

To help others doing their first wedding in the future, here are the lessons I learned from mine. I wrote these down for myself, and i'm sharing them to help others who're doing their first wedding soon.

First, a brief description of the wedding. It was done for a friend of a friend, who offered payment, which I turned down. I said they can pay my expenses, and if they like the photos they can make a "donation". I did as much organisation as I could leading up to the wedding, but they weren't at all organised, so for most things I had to wing it and work it out on the day.

The wedding was done in a large old house, the wedding was meant to be outside, but it was raining so it had to be done inside. The room the ceremony was in was so small that some people couldn't make it in, I was in the front row about 1 meter from the wedding party, along with a few other people with cameras. Formals were in a community theatre, under stage lighting.

I'll post some photos in a few days once i've done all my processing.


Ok, so here's my lessons learned, in approximate order of importance to me. If you don't like them or don't agree, tough, I wrote them for myself and it's what i'll do next time.
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1) SHOOT RAW. The pace on a wedding day can be frantic, you might not have time to get everything perfect, at least not during your first attempt at a wedding. RAW let me rescue shots that would have been lost if i'd been shooting JPG.
2) Organisation is key. The pace, as I said, is frantic, and you might not have time to eat, drink, or think. Key things about this:
- Have shot lists for all shots the bride and groom want.
- Have a drink and easy to eat food in your camera bag/vest. Assume there won't be any other food around on the day.
- There's often no time for monopods or tripods except during formal shots, use IS lenses or high ISO.
3) Wear comfortable shoes. You'll probably be warm and running around a lot so dress appropriately.
4) Review the histogram regularly, even if you think you got the shot.
5) Posing people well is hard. Read books before hand, look at other peoples pictures, and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE! If you've never given instructions to an inexperienced model before you'll be in trouble. Even with all i'd read and a practice session I wasn't prepared enough.
6) Take a minimum of 3 pictures of each posed shot, checking the histogram after each, and at least 5 shots of each group pose.
7) Use a custom white balance if possible, especially under mixed light conditions. I'll cut a LOT of time off your post processing workflow.
8) Don't use partial metering if you're in a hurry, unless you have something like a bright background and a dark subject.
9) Be careful to get horizons level, especially for formal shots. If you have a line of people, make sure you're equidistant from the people at either end, otherwise the shot will look slanted.
10) Don't cut off hands, feet, or anything else in formals.
11) If you're using a diffuser, bring twice as many batteries as you think you'll need, or a high capacity battery pack.
12) Don't underestimate how long post processing will take. Better to take one good photo that you get everything right in than five quick ones that need 15 minutes post processing. You have to balance that with getting the shot though.
13) Dress like you're a guest, or at least tidily. If you wear jeans you may get less respect and co-operation from guests, which you need to get shots.
14) Have the biggest camera at the wedding, that way people will be in no doubt who the official photographer is. I had to move people with smaller cameras out of the way for some of the shots, and since I was polite they didn't seem to mind.
15) Use a flash at the reception if it's dark. ISO 1600's acceptable (just) if you get the exposure right on, but with random lights around spoiling the exposure you'll end up with a lot of noise, which means a poor image or lots of post processing.
16) Flash brakets are essential, diffusers are slightly less so.

Here's a couple of books I found useful:
- The Best of Wedding Photojournalism: Techniques and Images from the Pros, by Bill Hurter. Link (external link).
- Digital Wedding Photography by Paul Gero. Link (external link).

Edit, 5 years later
7) I never do a CWB any more.
8) I always use partial metering, or manual.
14) I still think this matters if you're a guest, but if you do everything else right it doesn't much matter. People are usually very impressed with radio triggers, and slightly puzzled about why you need them.
15) How I photograph wedding receptions has massively changed. See that link.
16) Flash brackets are a PITA, heavy and awkward, I haven't used one in three years. I don't shoot direct flash so they're pointless.


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May 26, 2005 10:26 |  #2

This is some great information tim! Thanks for posting! I'm curious though which books you would recommend someone to read. Any really good ones out there that you found truely helpful? :-)




  
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May 26, 2005 11:01 |  #3

Noted in the ol'memory bank


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May 26, 2005 15:07 |  #4

I really liked this book (external link).


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May 26, 2005 20:02 |  #5

If you've never given instructions to an inexperienced model before you'll be in trouble. Even with all i'd read and a practice session I wasn't prepared enough.

I think this is the most important "people" aspect.


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May 27, 2005 03:20 |  #6

Tim, what did you use for your group shots? Surely the Tamron 28-75 was not wide enough. I have a similar wedding to you in Sept - the bride didn't even want a photographer and initially wanted me to take 6 photos! Her last comments to me were that she wasn't fussy.

But she does want a family photo that will involve approx 15-20 people, and space will be confined if its raining outside as we will have to use a church porch.

Therefore I feel that I need something wider than 28 (x1.6) for these formal shots

thanks, Antaine.


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May 27, 2005 03:25 |  #7

Antaine, I used the short end of my 70-200 F2.8, mostly at 70-100mm. I was a fair distance from them, as the formals were all taken in a theatre, and I was half way back on a raised platform. In general, you're better to be further back using a long lens than up close with a short lens, it's more flattering and you get less distortion of the persons features.


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May 27, 2005 03:48 |  #8

thanks Tim, but I won't have the luxury of being too far away from these guys so I'll practice with my Tamron with dummies (!!) and see how I get on

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May 27, 2005 04:32 |  #9

Actually, I use the 50mm/1.4 for portraits and the 16-35mm/2.8 for larger group shots........ In fact, I won't use anything more than those two for most of the day, except maybe a handful with my Tamron 28-75.
Just my recommendation.


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May 27, 2005 05:36 |  #10

that's why I might just look at a 17-40 (cannot afford the 16-35) or something equivalent in the Sigma/Tokina/Tamron range - anyone else in the same boat?!


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May 27, 2005 05:49 |  #11

New lesson learned: if it's raining, don't line people up under a balcony and take the group photo from under an umbrella. The raindrops mess the the photo, which means a lot of time with the healing brush/spot healing tool in Photoshop.


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May 27, 2005 06:10 |  #12

A really good book is "Digital Wedding Photography" by Paul Gero...I'm reading it now and it is great!




  
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May 27, 2005 06:19 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #13

tim wrote:
New lesson learned: if it's raining, don't line people up under a balcony and take the group photo from under an umbrella. The raindrops mess the the photo, which means a lot of time with the healing brush/spot healing tool in Photoshop.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I shouldn't be enjoying your pain so much, tim. But you make me laugh. I learn a hard lesson with every shoot so that's why I am giggling.


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May 27, 2005 06:19 as a reply to  @ Dubsta's post |  #14

Dubsta wrote:
A really good book is "Digital Wedding Photography" by Paul Gero...I'm reading it now and it is great!

In my opinion that's a good first wedding photography book, but it's a starter book not an "everything you need to know" book. I found this book (external link) much better.


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May 27, 2005 06:29 as a reply to  @ Maureen Souza's post |  #15

Maureen Souza wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I shouldn't be enjoying your pain so much, tim. But you make me laugh. I learn a hard lesson with every shoot so that's why I am giggling.

Share the lessons learned so we don't all have to learn them the hard way!


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