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Oct 09, 2009 23:46 |  #46

very very nice work! i wouldn't have thought that these images were coming out of the 85mm 1.8. I guess it's because you've ran some of the images through imagenomic which creates the super creamy richness of the 1.2 lens.


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Oct 10, 2009 00:06 |  #47

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very very nice work! i wouldn't have thought that these images were coming out of the 85mm 1.8. I guess it's because you've ran some of the images through imagenomic which creates the super creamy richness of the 1.2 lens.

I don't think the 85/1.8 needs and PP help - it is very capable on its own, the only thing it doesn't do is open up more than f/1.8. And it's actually easier to work with than the f/1.2 L, IMO. Close-up the 85/1.8 is as capable of melting the background as the f/1.2, if you use a FF camera.


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Oct 10, 2009 00:13 |  #48

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I don't think the 85/1.8 needs and PP help - it is very capable on its own, the only thing it doesn't do is open up more than f/1.8. And it's actually easier to work with than the f/1.2 L, IMO. Close-up the 85/1.8 is as capable of melting the background as the f/1.2, if you use a FF camera.

I agree Rudi. When I was shooting Canon I found the 85mm f/1.8 to be excellent and rendered out of focus background beautifully. The same is true of Nikon lenses. The classic 85mm f/1.4 has dreamy creamy bokeh but the 85mm f/1.8 is so close and quite nice, not to mention 1/3 the price.


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Oct 10, 2009 00:25 |  #49

I've owned and used both extensively, and still have my 85/1.8. That does not mean that it is superior to the f/1.2, it means that I couldn't justify keeping the f/1.2 L when the f/1.8 version did everything I needed to do (and I do some very shallow DOF work for every wedding), and for the money saved I could buy other gear (that does other things, things that an 85mm prime cannot do).


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Dec 17, 2009 08:15 |  #50

Update:

Well, it's been too cold to shoot natural light so I got the Octabank last week. I love this thing. The huge soft light is very flattering to skin and features. It's almost like cheating using this light. You can set it and forget it ;)

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Dec 17, 2009 09:04 |  #51

Peter, very nice.


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Dec 17, 2009 09:27 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #52

Looks great Peter but why are we seeing a light stand riser in the catch light if the light stand is at the back of the octa?


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Dec 17, 2009 09:32 |  #53

Hard to argue with results like these. I could stare at these two pictures all day!


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Dec 17, 2009 09:32 |  #54

That's the photog, not the stand (in the catch light). Great shots - and some nice camera porn.




  
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Dec 17, 2009 09:34 |  #55

Conner999 wrote in post #9215436 (external link)
That's the photog, not the stand (in the catch light)

Doh! Yes, of course. :D


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Dec 17, 2009 10:25 |  #56

Can you be more specific about the translucent material, is it just clear plastic like painters use or does it have a foggy light look?


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Dec 17, 2009 10:28 |  #57

There's a couple of videos on youtube with folks using this modifier with amazing results. I think they were done by Chris Burfoot. This will certainly be my next modifier from Elinchrom.




  
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Dec 17, 2009 11:31 |  #58

Conner999 wrote in post #9215436 (external link)
That's the photog, not the stand (in the catch light). Great shots - and some nice camera porn.

good catch, it's me standing in front of the Octabank.
Saw video where a photog on America's Next Top Model stood in front of it and shot:
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Can you be more specific about the translucent material, is it just clear plastic like painters use or does it have a foggy light look?

are you referring to the front diffuser? It's similar to other Elinchrom cloth diffusers.


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Dec 17, 2009 11:36 |  #59

pnmd wrote in post #9216139 (external link)
good catch, it's me standing in front of the Octabank.
Saw video where a photog on America's Next Top Model stood in front of it and shot:
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are you referring to the front diffuser? It's similar to other Elinchrom cloth diffusers.

I stand in front of my fill source quite a bit if I don't have room to shoot to the side or move it slightly. I'm not a big fan of catchlights that are interrupted like that and only do it when I can't work around it. I wouldn't do it with my main light though. That's just me.


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Dec 17, 2009 16:40 |  #60

TMR Design wrote in post #9216173 (external link)
I stand in front of my fill source quite a bit if I don't have room to shoot to the side or move it slightly. I'm not a big fan of catchlights that are interrupted like that and only do it when I can't work around it. I wouldn't do it with my main light though. That's just me.

I actually don't mind different or nonstandard positions of catchlights in the eyes. I'm a huge fan of cathchlights and with the Octabank, you'll never have pinpoint catchlights. ;)


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