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Testing Shots: Sigma 70-300 APO vs. Canon 75-300 IS USM

 
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May 26, 2005 16:14 |  #1

I will be spending the next few days with both lenses.

So far here are 4 shots, 2 with each lens. I am going to focus on hand held shooting at the long end.

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May 26, 2005 16:20 |  #2

Is that really all camera shake or is it just oof and soft. I would have thought 1/640 should have stopped the shakes.


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May 26, 2005 16:40 |  #3

Hello,

I would say that's impossible... I was going to ask the same question, but you HAVE answered it in advance... are you sure you didn't put a tripod under the camera with the Canon Lens?? ;)

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May 26, 2005 16:42 |  #4

Maybe it's too much high test coffee ;-)a


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May 26, 2005 16:53 |  #5

I put a couple more up at 160 / f8.0.




  
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May 26, 2005 22:17 |  #6

Guess this didn't go over very well.

Must be doing something wrong, maybe cuz I am a noob.




  
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May 26, 2005 23:56 |  #7

I would expect the Sigma to be much worse than the Canon at the slower shutter speed. Did you use a tripod on the 1/160 pix?
I would also expect the Sigma to improve when using a smaller aperture. The Canon still seems to have more contrast.
Reduce the variables between comparisons.
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May 27, 2005 00:22 |  #8

I have both and the canon is softer, has way more CA, and doesnt have nice color, or much contrast.

I will take some pics tomorrow.




  
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May 27, 2005 12:42 |  #9

I put a couple more up. Showing the softness of the Canon lens @ 300mm. The Mallard heads were taken on a tripod.




  
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May 27, 2005 13:08 |  #10

Did you turn off the IS for the shots with tripod? IS and tripods don't get along, especially on the 75-300. Some of the newer L glass "know" when there's a tripod being used and disable the IS.


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May 27, 2005 13:36 |  #11

Not the results i would expect having owned a non IS version of the Canon and Part X ing it for the Sigma:confused:

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May 27, 2005 14:15 |  #12

The only tripod shots were of the Mallard and "yes" the IS was off.

What results would you have expected Simon?




  
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May 27, 2005 15:25 |  #13

I'm guessing Simon was expecting the Sigma to have perfomed better. So was I. Looking at the wide open shot of the Smilers Meatballs I think you might have a soft copy. Judging by some of the comments about the lens on this forum there seems to be quite a bit of fluctuation in performance at 300mm between different copies.




  
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May 27, 2005 17:20 |  #14

Clearly the Canon lens handheld does a better job with the IS but the Sigma does a much better job on a tripod from a clarity/sharpness standpoint. At least with regard to the shots I have taken?




  
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May 27, 2005 18:54 |  #15

Could you go back to the canned pasta (I might be hungry but I like the color contrasts) and do a hand held wide open at 1/200 sec or thereabouts. Then the same shot at f/8 or tighter. Then tripod no IS same speeds and f stops. Four shots for each lens. This should narrow it down to camera shake or softness. I know it is a lot of work but hey, it is the weekend.
I did something similar with my Tamron and the wife's 75-300 IS. The Tamron only held it's own when the light was good enough to allow shutter speeds fast enough to stop camera shake (or use a tripod) and an aperture of at least f/8, f/11 was better. When all those conditions were met the Tamron really shone. I expect to see similar results with the Sigma.
I could get the same quality with the Tamron that I did with the Canon, I just had to work harder at it.


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