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7D vertical banding - a "regular fault"?

 
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Sep 29, 2009 12:03 |  #1

A very few copies of the 5D2 exhibited a hardware fault (unbalanced A/D channels). I saw and analyzed raw files of four of such cameras; all have been repaired by Canon in the meantime.

See the thread https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=674155

It appears now, that this kind of fault is present in the 7Ds as well. There are not many raw files around yet, but most of those I analyzed exhibit this fault to different degree; some are probably negligable, while others look worse.

The fault is visible in low-ISO raw images, only in the very shadows. As usual, some posters will say that a Canon camera is not supposed to be defamed by underexposed shots. Those, who believe that the 7D should reproduce details in the deep shadows as well, may be more interested on this issue.

The fault can be shown the easiest on ISO 100 black frame shots. A black frame shot looks normally pretty boring. Example: from the 50D, ISO 200, first the composite color, then the single raw channels (only one of the greens):

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Now, let's see the black frame of the 7D, with ISO 100:
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The raw files can be analyzed by Rawnalyze, see http://www.cryptobola.​com/PhotoBola/Rawnalyz​e.htm (external link)
If someone uploads such raw file(s), I can do that too. It would be interesting to find out, how much this fault affects the converted images. Unfortunately there are not many samples out there with low ISO and very dark patches.

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Sep 29, 2009 12:25 |  #2

just curious though and while it might not be relevent but still figured I would ak. is it just me or does the 50d show some lines as well that while not any were near as pronounced or frequent they do seem to be there.


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Sep 29, 2009 12:29 |  #3

This is why I love POTN


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Sep 29, 2009 12:36 |  #4

I've got a version of that red channel pic hanging on my wall.
What a coincidence! :lol:




  
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Sep 29, 2009 12:42 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #5

Am I supposed to see a vase? Or two faces?

I don't think I'm crossing my eyes enough...:lol:


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Sep 29, 2009 12:43 |  #6

Agamemnon wrote in post #8727648 (external link)
Am I supposed to see a vase? Or two faces?

I don't think I'm crossing my eyes enough...:lol:

I think I see a bird shot at ISO1600.:lol:;)




  
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Sep 29, 2009 12:43 |  #7

This is NOT good for the impeccable reputation of the 7D on POTN.


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Sep 29, 2009 12:44 |  #8

It's a schooner.


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Sep 29, 2009 12:45 |  #9

Agamemnon wrote in post #8727648 (external link)
Am I supposed to see a vase? Or two faces?

I don't think I'm crossing my eyes enough...:lol:

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Sep 29, 2009 12:54 |  #10

nicksan wrote in post #8727658 (external link)
I think I see a bird shot at ISO1600.:lol:;)

Well! So much for the 7D as a good birding camera!

It'll have to be relegated to the likes of the 50D, and other maligned cameras!

Wait...I think I shoot birds with a 50D. Poop!


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Sep 29, 2009 12:55 |  #11

That reminds me of a fault I had with a 1DIIN a couple of years back LINK.

Interesting...

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Sep 29, 2009 12:55 |  #12

I think those are the 3D shots someone was hoping for in another thread - just look at them long enough and a dinosaur pops out.;)


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Sep 29, 2009 13:01 |  #13

grphx wrote in post #8727672 (external link)
It's a schooner.

No stupid, it's a sailboat.

OK, just for giggles, I'll shoot the inside of a lens cap tonight (wouldn't be the first time :o ) and have a look at it to see if the problem is repeatable on a different 7D body.


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Sep 29, 2009 13:17 |  #14

AdamLewis wrote in post #8727563 (external link)
This is why I love POTN

+1

Also, this gives my first reason not to upgrade to the 7D. I take quite a few solid black shots for various assignments, that this is a deal breaker.




  
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Sep 29, 2009 13:21 |  #15

None of my pictures look anything like that.


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